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Do you think the USA is on the verge of a Civil War?
BLACK LIVES MATTER03-Dec-20 11:05 pm
WSP (Wealth, Status ,and Power) or if you prefer (CP) Class and Power is tearing the USA apart. The USA was the last country (for a HAVE country) - too outlaw slavery - and that took a civil war! Democrats tried too undermine the election results in 2016 - Hillary Clinton (which the public does not acknowledge). Republicans are trying to undermine election results in 2020 - President Donald Trump (Trump is not a budding genius - the idea of undermining the election results comes from Hillary Clinton). Cultural Genocide and Racial Discrimination is spawning hatred in the US at an unprecedented level in the history of the USA! If you are not born a WASP (White Anglo Saxon Protestant) - in the USA - you are consider inferior - openly! The federal government has broken every promises (an I mean every promise) it has made to Blacks, Native Americans, Native Alaskans, and Native Hawaiians. The division of people in the USA is wider and deeper then the Grand Canyon! The USA spends more on the military then any other country on the planet (for the obvious reasons - could not keep its nose out of country's business) - since the end of WW2. Which does not leave a lot of tax dollars for health, education, etc. programs! Furthermore, the USA is showing signs of an economic decline (USA imports more then it exports for quite a few years). Also, I had NEVER thought of myself as being an American or even a Black American. Back to my original question with a twist - ( a Ms. Cassie G.) made me rethink options (which I appreciative): Do you think the USA is on the verge of a Civil War ? Do you think the USA is no longer a World Leader?
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  • Mopos
    Sorry this message is on one of your old posts. I haven't seen you around for a while Walter, are you ok?
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    • BLACK LIVES MATTER
      Hi Mopos. I am fine! I have some issues that I had to deal with offline! However, I appreciate you asking about me!
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    • MoposBLACK LIVES MATTER
      Thanks Walter, :) :)
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  • phillH
    The problem is you americans are under the delusion that you think your country is the greatest thing on this planet when in fact most of the world generally dislikes your country and what it stands for and finds most of you very irritating and quite honestly I couldnt give a rats arse if your country dissolves into anarchy
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    • Dawn B 1183336
      Yes I do. As the cost of living increases and food shortages become worse and the division of the USA, yes I do believe it will be the little common working class, the poor and middle class vs the government.
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      • Luv ur
        I think we are still a world leader, but look around the streets..... We are definitely in a civil war as you bring up this subject.
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        • mary c
          All good with you Walter? :)
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          • allin
            i read through all these replies, people blame trump, people blame biden, but it's all just horseshit cuz wen the democratic congress comes up with a good idea, the republican senate states they won't pass and stall on it until they get control of it all again,, use your heads for something instead of holding your hat, vote out all the democracy ending legislators, they are not working for you or i, their job is to line their own pockets and take money from the folks that actually do run the country, as they have most of the money and they don't want to give regular people even an aspirin,, whomever votes for those kind of people are the problem,, as far as civil war, i'm 76 and do not need glasses, and i shoot every week on a 1000m range, death penalty does not phase me,, send 'em, but make sure you order a lot of body bags,,,,
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            • Wendy Q
              Not seen or heard anything happening. Russia is everyone's BIG worry at present.
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              • APB
                I suspect that something has happened in Russia...and that Putin wants a big nasty external threat to occupy his citizens...at the same time Biden realises that his NATO friends need him to step up and take part in World affairs...which is good for votes when you aren't doing too well...and Boris in the UK is just praying for a war anywhere to save his damaged Government...UK troops were the first on the ground....What fun!!...he wants to be Churchill.... ...internal war will have to wait until we all stop killing other people..
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                • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                  a war would work for usa, russia, and england - take focus off internal issues for each country
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                • APBBLACK LIVES MATTER
                  Damn right...they might take out chunks of Europe in the process...but think of the political security...and all the money that can be made..what sanctions?...
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                • BLACK LIVES MATTERAPB
                  profits over people - works every time
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              • john v 551148
                u s leads the world. those who would undermine her should be dealt with
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                • Leslie D 488751
                  For years the main idea of the Democrats was/is to destroy America from the inside, and has been going on since JFK was assassinated. When the Democrats had to deal with President Trump it became more to the front, and denied anything to do with Trump. With the last election I had the feeling that a puppet President Biden was installed by Hilary Clinton and the rest for 6 months, then she was going to take the reins. Everything that America stood for is being destroyed in the name of the N.W.O. With the Democrats in power they have done more damage than the C.C.P. ever could. If they are not voted out there will not be a U.S.A. next time. America is going down the loo faster than "The Flash", and sorry to say no longer a leader on the world stage, thanks to Biden and the Democrats. America can be great again, but it will take hard work, get rid of the woke mantality and the democrats, and a strong leader who knows how to govern.
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                  • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                    The usa was built on slavery (Blacks), genocide (Native Americans), racism (Minorities), and sexism (Woman of Color). Hence, the usa was NEVER a democracy. The truth is coming out due to WASP (white, anglo, saxon, protestant) - inability to deal with reality (Example: 01/06/2021 - Insurrection). Furthermore, this is 2022 - not 1950!!!
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                • Wendy Q
                  Not sure, depends on how the Americans fear or loathe their present system of Government.
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                  • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                    Minorities fear our present system of government (police brutality) - WASP (White Angelo Saxon Protestant) loath our present system (too much corruption which WASP knowingly created)
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                • APB
                  Hey Walter....this is headline news in Newsweek....Canada should be fully prepared for the USA being a Right wing dictatorship by 2030....here is the link.......or just check out newsweek...... https://www.newsweek.com/prepare-right-wing-dictatorship-america-2030-scholar-urges-canada-1664810
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                  • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                    Hey APB: Does not SURPRISE me? Historical, the usa has always lean to the RIGHT! Ever heard the word WASP (white, anglo, saxon, protestant)?
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                  • APBBLACK LIVES MATTER
                    I thought that Covid was going to kill off all your Republicans before the next elections...there is a new wave of Covid coming in June....Everyone with brain cells get your boosters NOW!!....NOBODY anywhere on Earth needs an American right wing dictatorship...it doesn't matter how wild the idiot in charge hairstyle is...there are some very dangerous people over there that make Trump look like Play School....you take care America....we had some problems with Germany and Japan a while back...as I remember?...that didn't end too well.... and you would be just playing into your perceived enemies hands...the whole landscape of the world would change...we would ALL have a new bad guy to concentrate on.....think about that..... Russia becoming Europe's new best friend...which was always there in the background when America f*cks up...and China offering military support?....mmmm...not good
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                • john v 551148
                  u s a is still the worlds leader. we would do well to ingnore the naysayers.clowns, if you dont love it leave it
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                  • Joe B 288252
                    Just look at what happened in the last USA election. That country is only a few steps away from being a rogue nation. Makes The Handmaids Tale more of a prophecy than a fiction….lol . Still a great place to visit though
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                    • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                      It is a rogue nation (USA) - for centuries!
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                  • Jenny L 591463
                    Another point how many counties have a Chinatowns? Never heard of America Town or Yankee Town. There are 35 Chinatowns in19 countries.
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                    • Tina 423889
                      We certainly can't keep going as we are. When people just hate each other instead of putting the blame where it should be..the government and politicians that want us to be divided.
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                      • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                        NO! We hate each other (for historical reasons - examples - some of us are descendants of slavery or descendants of indengious races). Governments and politicians are smart enough to divide us (as in divide and conquer)!!
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                      • GrommieBLACK LIVES MATTER
                        plus you have the Irish. Walter, do you ever use a spell checker? I did like indengious....
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                      • Campbell C 184664BLACK LIVES MATTER
                        ".... or descendants of indengious races". We all are!
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                    • Jenny L 591463
                      I hope not, as if the world needs it. I am sure Co Vid 19 has made some people more stupid and selfish. Putting them selves first. Shouldn't we all be more united and help each other. Haven't we suffered enough. Around 4.5 million people have lost their lives and they say we're the lucky ones. No we aren't, they are. They no longer have to worry about any of this and it is concerning for lots of people.
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                      • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                        you do not remember what happened on 01/06/2021 in the usa?!
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                      • Jenny L 591463BLACK LIVES MATTER
                        Yes Walter I do, it is when the citizens of America stormed the Capital Building and some idiots managed (5) I do believe got them selves killed. It was coordinated, all planned. Wasn't that to get back for Trump not getting back in and to stop Congress from certifying President Biden? Do you think Biden is doing a better job and if so why?
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                      • BLACK LIVES MATTERJenny L 591463
                        I do not think biden is doing a better job then trump - both are white and incompetent (you are asking/expecting a lot)! Only time will tell - if biden becomes involved in an attempted coup to overthrow the federal (national) government - like trump - which would not surprise me - since the usa was never a democracy!?
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                      • Jenny L 591463BLACK LIVES MATTER
                        I agree he isn't. Yes only time will tell, and no nothing surprises me either. I am just Thankful I do not live in America.
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                      • allin
                        Before you post misinformation, you should verify it, it's folks that spread misinformation that are a main problem in the US
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                    • Edward S 497347
                      Australia also imports more from China than we export and we have done so since China was a poor developing country to help China financially stand on its own 2 feet and many other countries have been doing the same thing. As China became more financially stable they became greedy and began attracting big corporations to close their manufacturing plants in other countries and set up their operations in China, thus making the world much more dependant on China and has made China one of the MOST powerful and MOST dangerous countries in the world. USA is on the brink of war with China, Russia, AND Nth Korea, all of who I believe will eventually join forces to take on the rest of the world. The USA is now also on the brink of war with the T aliban in Afghanistan because America, Australia, and other involved countries are NOT getting people out of there quick enough. Countries like Australia are more concerned with ONLY rescuing Australians and those who have visas, when in fact these countries involved should be rescuing as many civilians as they can regardless of whether they have visas or not because it is a humanitarian crisis.
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                      • Edward S 497347
                        With power-hungry countries like China, Russia, and Nth Korea; and psychopaths as their leaders, world war 3 is not very far away... In fact, the global covid-19 pandemic is China's deliberate attack on the rest of the world ( China's war against the world ) without the leaders around the world knowing that they already are at war with China. Once the rest of the world wakes up to this fact the rest of the world will retaliate; hence world war 3 and China will join forces with their allies being Russia and Nth Korea
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                        • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                          Question: Former POTUS Trump WAS NOT a PSYCHOPATH (since he blatantly lied about the election results and is still lying about the election results)!?
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                      • Dada WA
                        More like civil unrest. I don't think any side will take up organised civil war. I hope I'm right.
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                        • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                          I can see a civil war in the USA - the far right stormed a pillar of democracy - the Capitol Building in the USA - on 01/06/2021! Furthermore, Democracy has only exist in the USA - for Caucasians! Not to mention - the Joint Chief of Staff (military) - took the extra ordinary step of calling the storming of the Capitol Building (by the far right) - INSURRECTION!!
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                        • Anna RogersBLACK LIVES MATTER
                          Because that’s what it was, and given the American reputation for patriotism I’m surprised those arrested aren’t charged with whatever the equivalent charge is to Treason. Their actions were a violation of the Constitution and makes Joe McCarthy’s version of Un- American Activity pale in comparison, Some of them had the gall to chant “USA” at the same time, and are now whining for a pardon. That shows they know they were wrong cos if you aren’t in the wrong there’s nothing go be pardoned for. Duh
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                        • BLACK LIVES MATTERAnna Rogers
                          Like - it does make McCarthyism (Red Scare from 1953 - 1955) look pale by comparison - 01/06/2021 was an attempted insurrection - and the harshest of penalties should be handed out in court
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                        • Anna RogersBLACK LIVES MATTER
                          My comparison was in no way making light of McCarthyism’s impact especially upon individuals affected by it but Joe MCCarthy deemed it Un-American just to be suspected of having a certain worldview (Communism). Whereas these people’s ACTIONS were Un-American.
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                        • BLACK LIVES MATTERAnna Rogers
                          bottom line: both undermine belief in democracy - McCarthyism and 01/06/2021 - both were inspired by patriots (so-called inspired patriots) - old enough to remember McCarthyism
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                        • Anna RogersBLACK LIVES MATTER
                          I completely agree but my point is that while one was simply a theory this was a direct physical and very violent attack (as opposed to a simple protest demonstration) upon the U.S. Capitol. Totally Ub-American activity exacerbated by people chanting “USA.”
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                        • BLACK LIVES MATTERAnna Rogers
                          evolving - from political rhetoric to political violence
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                      • Craig P 469035
                        well if they wonna kill themselves let them do it.
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                        • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                          Right - you are assuming the aftermath is not going to affect your country
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                        • Craig P 469035BLACK LIVES MATTER
                          you watch way to much cnn fake new's.
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                        • BLACK LIVES MATTERCraig P 469035
                          I don't own a TV or have satellite TV or cable TV. Besides all news networks are bias in the USA. Logic informs me - IF the USA has a civil war (openly kill each other) - the USA will not be paying off its monetary debt - which is in the trillions - (the USA debt is the biggest of HAVE countries) - so it will affect the rest of the world - on a monetary level
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                      • Katzeye
                        I'm sorry but I can only sit back and shake my head in disgust watching all this unfold.It is a very worrying time for my friends in the US.
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                        • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                          This has been unfolding for centuries
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                      • APB
                        The USA...a country that arguably was created by lawyers...and their descendants are still greedily eating away at it... A civil war is about the only thing that won't happen... you need a country that is more cohesive...where large numbers of people have a common goal...and usually somewhere where there are two opposing sides...what you have is seriously large number of people with no common goals, who are all very angry about the way America is...to an external observer (I spent 3 months touring America and have lived in several other countries over many years) some of these groups, their beliefs and their convictions are just beyond anything I have experienced or even understand...and its all just bubbling away, encouraged by its outgoing President..there really isn't any US or THEM, there is really very little common ground (2 white policemen kill a black man, while an Asian policeman tries to stop people filming it?.....the national guard tear gassing Black lives matter groups AND white supremacist
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                        • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                          It will be a civil war in the USA (hopeful not in my lifetime - but I am OLD). The poor and working poor versus the rich and the super rich. Think the reign of terror in France - history has a nasty habit of repeating itself on this planet!
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                        • APBBLACK LIVES MATTER
                          I admire your optimism...it didn't do the French any harm and it scared the shit out of the British Monarchy too...I think it is too easy in America to turn them all upon themselves.. let the poor eat themselves...the French were more focused and organised...they still are!
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                        • BLACK LIVES MATTERAPB
                          in theory I agree with your assessment - but people constantly surprise me
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                      • Peter T 100083
                        YES! As someone who has live there and a Dual citizen. SO close to to one. President trump won. The shit will hit the fan come next year! Thank God the US has the 2nd amendment.
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                        • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                          You are being sarcastic - President Trump won??? Furthermore, the 2nd amendment doesn't beat the Army or Marine Corp - (professionals versus amateurs) under any circumstances in the USA - still you might have a miniscule point (Vietnam , Afghanistan - the Army and Marines took a beating in both places)!
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                        • APBBLACK LIVES MATTER
                          I used to have this HUGE US marine as a mate years back...man he must have well over 6 foot and about as wide...solid muscle...he told me "we need to look at history man and take some notes..Gheghis Khan was conquering the world. got as far as Vietnam and gave up...The French Foreign Legion came in next....these guys are the most evil MFs on the planet...I wouldn't take these guys on...and they got sent packing too...then they send us in there?... I tell you someone just isn't paying attention!"
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                        • BLACK LIVES MATTERAPB
                          when it comes to urban warfare - think Algerian War (1954 -1962 ) - have nots versus haves (the have nots won). The Algerian War is most vicious urban war ever fought on this planet! The Marine's concept is call: For these who did not understand history are condemn to repeat history! Genghis Khan was poison by one of sons before he could invade Vietnam - and his empire crumbled in less then a hundred years after his death! Genghis Khan also invent the concept of scorch earth policy when it came to warfare!!!
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                      • Craig P 469035
                        as long as we aint dragged into their shit politic's then it's not our prob's except for the ching's.
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                        • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                          Are you an Isolationist (right now the USA is not making friends - overseas) - and you are entitled to your opinion
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