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Fat Tyred E-Bikes - A menace, or not?
Ian 156163807-Nov-24
They're everywhere now.

On the roads and footpaths as well.

Riders un-helmeted, passengers too and at the speeds the youngsters are riding them it is only a matter of time before there is a fatality of either the rider, the passenger or a pedestrian.

Should they be registered and/or the riders licensed?
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  • Yes and it was happening in the 80' and 90's with petrol bikes
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    • Yes to both
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      • yes
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        • yes to both
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          • Yes they should be
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            • Yes
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              • So true, we in my location have some very narrow parking areas, and if you don't have all eyes on, when reversing and these not only the E-Bikes, but also the Scooters Riders, come past not looking where they are going, it's an accident waiting to happen, and if you say anything to them, they want to kick your door in, cause the think they have the right of way, and they no need a license to ride the scooters, more and more school kids are riding them
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                • yes they they should be registereed
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                  • The adults are also riding on the footpath in my area and also speed without a thought to those walking. Sometimes they ring the bell behind me to move out of the way. Mostly I step to the side but occasionally I do not. I have twisted my ankle and often not even a thank you for moving on the lawn to let them speed past. Yes they should be registered and pay a licence since they do not care for the well being for those walking on the FOOTPATH
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                    • It is illegal to ride any bike without a helmet here. It is so dangerous too.
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                      • They should make a pathway for them
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                        • Yeh it should be next to the bike lane ...give me a break mary theres barely enough room for cars let alone another bike lane. They should register push bikes and ebikes and they should use the same dedicated lane. If you use the road infrastructure you should pay.
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                      • There have been fatalities already, two in 2 weeks in fact. They are a menace and if the police are unable to enforce speeding cars etc. how can they be expected to police E-bikes and E-scooters?
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                        • Illegal to ride without a helmet,but rarely enforced. New road laws mean here we have to give way( on road,and cross over lanes to go past),annoying. E.bikes,like anything else that is motorised should be registered,insured and should have a dedicated lane or bike track for use.
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                          • Registered and on road only. There is enough noise maybe ban them altogether.
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                            • Don't have them in our area but anything with a motor should be on the road and registered.
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                              • Not in our area, we dont have them.... Maybe parents should grow up
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                                • ban them
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                                  • Let them have fun! Life is too regulated already!
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                                    • A bit late on the fatalities m8 there has allready been a couple of deaths and a few padestians been injured.
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                                      • I don't know much about them and we live very rural and mountains but I don't think I want to ride one and sounds rather dangerous or unstable. At my age I would opt for a large tricycle now
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                                        • Maniacs on our footpaths and roads.
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                                          • Yep, they should be registered so that if an accident happens, there is legal accountability. They shouldn't be able to double or triple on them, sometimes with the passengers not even wearing helmets or shoes. They shouldn't be able to ride through the mall or on the footpaths, scaring the heck out of pedestrians and their dogs. Seriously, something needs to be done; it's beyond ridiculous!
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                                            • They should be registered
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                                            • Many suburbs of Sydney have footpaths not suited to motorized vehicles. Accidents can happen and it really requires Government to acknowledge and clearly sign which areas are acceptable for electric e-bike riding before someone (usually of senior age) gets run over and badly hurt.
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                                              • Don’t really have a problem with them
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                                                • I think they should be registered and same rules apply as to other road users
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                                                  • Too heavy
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                                                    • no problem
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                                                      • Absolute liability on every level
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                                                        • Yes, and the laws obeyed.
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                                                          • I really don’t see a problem with these bikes.
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                                                            • In general, bike riders in towns are a real pain, even on pedestrian walk ways, careful where you walk, you can get bowled over, I feel for those who are deaf, when bike riders ring their bells, you wouldn't hear them coming.
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                                                              • I love bikes
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                                                                • They got own limits speed ,they need to check how fast they are going.
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                                                                  • Bikes have been around for centuries. No different know to before.
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                                                                    • Show me how to go up a hill on an ordinary bike and catch the bloke on an electric bike. They are way different.
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                                                                  • Yes!
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                                                                    • Yes if they are on the roads and yes there needs to be more regulation around where the bikes can be ridden. Of course helmets are mandatory but they don't seem to care about any of that. Our neighbour occasionally rides his motor bike up the drive way and he does ride down the road quite often with no helmet on or safety gear. It's too dangerous and one day 2 went out and only 1 came back. Never heard what happened but it would have been bad. I don't like any bikes at all. Some family friends lost their son in a motor bike accident, married 12 months no children. It was very sad for every one and the parents had a hard time with the daughter in law wanting to keep family heirlooms for her self. Eventually they got back the things but took awhile. Then there is charging an electric bike. They have banned them in hostels because they can explode if being charged in correctly. My nephew rides one down in Melbourne and he loves it. He looks like a postie/hippee dude. Too funny.
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                                                                      • Not necessarily. But I do think there should be a minimum age limit. (Probably a maximum as well.)
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                                                                        • Ban them all. Dangerous as you can’t see or hear them. Same as electric scooters in shopping centres. It’s like a race track. I appreciate elder’s using them but more regulations needed. I have had morons flying down the street on wrong side and thru red lights so matter of time before they have or cause an accident
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                                                                          • The fat tyres possibly make it more stable with the weight of the battery, motor etc. The e-scooters supplied in some areas for tourists or whoever decides to borrow them that I have seen have helmets with them
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                                                                            • Yes they’ve need to be insured as well in case they damage a Rolls Royce
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                                                                              • should be classed as a motorbike still has a motor to push it along at stewpid speed's, they should be registered definately, pay insurance, hit a pedestrian insurance, rego and drive on the road's like cyclist do. you crash it tuff shit ya cant compo yaself.
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                                                                                • I hate electric bikes Michael
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                                                                                  • yes!
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                                                                                    • Only the rider is a menace and parents, schools and gummint should be nudging people to be careful considerate users. Politeness seems to be a cultural vacuum in society these days
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                                                                                      • if it's got a VIN it should be registered. Mobility scooters are also a menace
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                                                                                        • Mobility scooters can be set to a maximum speed. I knew a lady who had one and went fairly fast on it. When her son visited it he used to check what speed she had it set at and reduce it. He wished he could lock the speed. It should be compulsory to have a flag....and lights that can be used in low visibility.
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                                                                                        • IdentifyAsRosemary E 383382
                                                                                          there are some people that just shouldnt drive
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                                                                                      • yes they need to be registered and have insurance like any other road user
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                                                                                        • Cyclists don’t register or pay insurance and some of them disregard road rules
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                                                                                        • , cyclists can be stopped by the Police. I know of one case
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                                                                                      • Believe e-scooters are the biggest problem now!
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                                                                                        • I once Crashed my Ebike (mountain bike with electrical wheel put on it). That was because the council left a big are across the cement unfixed with broken parts of cement across it. (not entirely my Fault). Now making registration for Ebikes will just mean less of them, make people stay away from them to save money. there's no need for registration. they are much the same as Bicycles no need for licensing.
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                                                                                          • Just join the rest of the cyclists and continue to block roads and break all the laws, then blame drivers for their own mistakes.
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                                                                                            • NO - to your question! We cannot get adult car drivers to abide by the rules when driving! Nearly one-third of car crash deaths in 2021 were cause by adult drunk drivers - the latest figures are three years old (USA). If you can't get adults to follow the safety rules when driving, you definitely are not going to get youngster to follow safety rules on roads and footpaths!
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                                                                                              • NO
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                                                                                                • Only on dry dry dsys
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                                                                                                  • Unregistered, uninsured and unlicensed underage riders; the sooner they are banned the better
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                                                                                                    • Moterbikes have to havve a licence in Australia. They are like a car. Normal push bikes no. But yes i will agree there has been a few collisions lately
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                                                                                                      • There are a lot of e bikes in my city.. they tried to put in bike lanes but still people drive wherever they want including the sidewalks sometimes! I'm constantly checking over my shoulder for motorized bikes and bicycles on the sidewalk
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                                                                                                        • Ordinary skate boards can be dangerous too. I know one person who was knocked over by one in Adelaide CBD and there was nearly several other people could have been injured too.
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                                                                                                      • It's not the bike but the idiot on them that is causing all the issues. I have already said all bikes/ebikes should be registered and pat their fair share of road user taxes. And there should be a class of licensed for cyclist on roads.
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                                                                                                        • Yes, the motor bike / dirt bike type are a concern for both rider and pedestrian safety. So is a real dirt bike you can't stop recklessness.
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                                                                                                          • Some ride dirt bikes without rego plates on the road so you can't report those to ride dangerously, including weaving in and out of traffic, playing "chicken" in front of cars etc
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                                                                                                        • I that that probably more money can be filtered in the bottomless coffers by on the spot fines or banning thoughtless idiots from using them.
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                                                                                                          • these e bikes have to be considered as a motor bike or a vehicle as it possesses the same result when in an accident... so these have to go thru the same procedures as an automobile, registration, maybe even a number plate, should be on roads and not pavements, should be mandatory in wearing helmets and should have a speed limit
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                                                                                                            • no different to a fat tyred car is it??? What needs to be legal on roads is scooters. Make them pay a wof and rego!!!! I'm tired of sharing a road that I pay for and they do not
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                                                                                                              • well, cars don't fall over for a start and don't travel on footpaths and bikes aren't surrounded by a cage so yes, they're different
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                                                                                                              • IncognitoIan 1561638
                                                                                                                Well, you are completely missing the point here, clearly. I'm talking about fat tyres, and illegal road users, what are you talking about? Fat tyres go on roads too. by way of fat tyred bikes, and cars and buses and trucks...............we have designated IWAYS where I live, so most bicyclists ride them! ALSO we do have idiots in cars, riding on the footpaths....so, still not getting your point
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                                                                                                            • I haven't seen any around here, on the island? I love living on an island! ;-D
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                                                                                                              • I have no license and I ride on a E-BIKE myself, it's my way of getting from point A to point B and I think that everyone should wear a helmet .. in my case I have to wear a helmet ,knee pads or shin guards cause I'm accident prone ..
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                                                                                                                • No. I wish I had one.
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                                                                                                                  • Have never encountered any where I live. But they should be registered at the very least and they should be made to wear helmets.
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                                                                                                                    • They are a menace! Riders expect Pedestrians to step off footpaths to avoid being wiped out. How is this OK?
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                                                                                                                      • They are motor bikes.
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                                                                                                                        • I have never seen any where I live
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                                                                                                                          • does anybody walk anymore?
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                                                                                                                            • Hi boy blunder. I walk every day for an hour - nonstop -. for health reasons. I set a very fast pace. Hence, I walk by myself - every time. I lose 350 calories when I walk for an hour - exactly 350 calories - lol!
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                                                                                                                            • I wish I could. But I can't with a broken leg at the moment.
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                                                                                                                            • boy blunderBLACK LIVES MATTER
                                                                                                                              i walk for 2 hrs every day as well bud diabetes 2 keeps it at bay a bit
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                                                                                                                            • I have hypermetabolism when it comes to calories and energy! I over walk, when I was a preteen - I have to be precise about everything!
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                                                                                                                            • is that a rare thing ive never heard of it
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                                                                                                                            • it happens to about 10% to 15% of the population worldwide - but it is self-induce - it means I did too much walking in my preteen's years and permanently ramp up my metabolism for consuming food and energy - I keep track of how much I eat and much time I spend doing aerobics I do on a daily basis or I will gain weight on a daily basis - no - it is not diabetes - not classified as a disease period - because I do not take medication now and I will not have to take medication in the future - it will affect how long I live - but it is self-induce - I did too much walking (MILES) in my preteen's years!
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                                                                                                                          • Not the tyres that are the issue, it's the power rating of the electric motor. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them actually rate as a motor bike that needs to have a rider with a motor bike licence. Fatalities are an inevitable consequence. You cannot legislate stupidity out of our lives.
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                                                                                                                            • fat tyred bikes are the predominant example here in Sydney, AU and was just an example, not the rule.
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                                                                                                                          • Lock up anyone with a child on with them without a helmet
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                                                                                                                            • I think so!
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                                                                                                                              • Another distraction on the road car drivers have to be mindful of. One came fast off a bike path and swerved in front of the car just as I was about to turn. It scared the bjeesies out of me! Was very glad I saw him in time. Yikes!
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                                                                                                                                • I have one guy around my neighbourhood... and he speeds up and down the road regularly. You can hear it, even if your not outside to see it.
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                                                                                                                                  • Oh, they need to have insurance, just in case they run someone down, or hit a car and cause damage. Much worse than bikes on the road.
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                                                                                                                                    • You should have to be at least 18 to use one. Have a rego number on the back. Limit the speed. Don't ride in the middle of the footpath. I think they should only be used on bike--tracks .
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                                                                                                                                      • Yeah, and them scooters make an annoying noise as they glide past. They cause accidents. I just wish they would stay off the footpaths.
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                                                                                                                                        • They should require liability insurance, registration and a driver's license. With everything else equal, all would be required if the motor ran on gasoline... on public streets.
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                                                                                                                                          • One caught fire on the subway. I don't think anyone was hurt. They never showed it on the media
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                                                                                                                                            • Worse than that, someone recently died.
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                                                                                                                                          • Yes this may get them thinking when they speed down the street or on side walks
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                                                                                                                                            • Yes.. way too many close calls already. Most dont use bells or even say coming thru and they assume you can hear them coming.
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                                                                                                                                              • Let nature take it's course...unfortunately for the pedestrians. No amount of regulation, rules or laws is going to stop stupidity.
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                                                                                                                                                • Let's look to requiring INSURANCE ... for the innocents injured by e-bike operators.
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                                                                                                                                                  • yes! Vehicle registration here comes with compulsory Third Party Insurance to cover others injured in an accident. So...registration!
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                                                                                                                                                • It is horrifying where I love. The race through the park and careless of animals, children etc. and off down the road often on the wrong side. As motor bike riders going around the same speed have to be licensed and go through courses then these riders should also. No insurance so if they hit someone there is no consequences for them as they are under age.
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                                                                                                                                                  • It does not sound very good to me should be some regulations on speed
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                                                                                                                                                    • First quads and now e-bikes. They should be licensed.
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                                                                                                                                                      • There needs to be some regulations that should apply for riders of these E bikes.
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                                                                                                                                                        • They're everywhere here in Rural/Coastal Far North NZ. Often the rider is underage, just a child in fact! They go fast, they are not wearing helmets and I can not believe the parents of these kids allow this! We've always had motocross bikes racing up and down the beach at low tide, but this is next level. So dangerous, and these kids are obviously not fully aware of the consequences. No police station up here either so more and more of these "crazy riders" are coming here on weekends to put their lives at risk! Parents nowadays have more money than sense!!
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                                                                                                                                                          • You rarely see a push bike these days and these bikes are not cheap. We have most kids in schools on them and all up and down the streets and beach paths etc. There is one guy who rides one and has a kid in front of him around age 5 and one behind him around 7 or 8, no helmets on any of them and he goes fast also and we have to get out of his way as it seems with most of the kids riding these bikes.
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