someone needs to better harness hydrogen, its only by product when burned is water.

People need a choice, if they want gas they should be able to have gas, enough said!

It is so much cheaper for my husband and me to use gas, ours is safe because we have no pilot lights to spew out gas when not using. We have the igniter which only is used when we turn it on. We have no small children to turn it on when we are not aware.

I always use gas stoves because really fast cooking ,saves my time

Gas is dangerous but electric is also dangerous in pocket. So expensive 😫

Just like asbestos, it’s probably good for you!

yers the guys that installed my mum's new wonderful oven back in the day installed it incorrectly and started a fire in her kitchen, luckily there were people at home with her, she got a new kitchen out of it but it could have been sooooo different, there are a lot of hidden dangers in the home that we just don't think about,,,, good post-APBEdited 07-Nov-24 06:36am

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I love my gas appliances, and it is nobody's business if this is my choice. Especially the government or these do-gooders that should just go away or get their lips sewed up to keep the noise levels down!!!! Me and my gas company are the best of friends.

I love my gas stove top for cooking! I have two 45kg cylinders and a Rinnai system that gets regularly checked and maintained. Not had any problems. No health complaints... my ticker seems to be ticking along nicely and my lungs are coping well too! I might go and spark up to celebrate!

Prefer gas

I've had gas stoves all my life. Handy when the power goes out

Never used it

when using gas have to be careful

I don't believe it's. I will keep on used it's eve if say so. Are they run out of gas so made up bad for us.

I have gas and it so expensive to run. As much as I love it, it has to go. There is no place for gas in Australia any longer. Electricity is the only affordable option left. So sad.

I love my gas stove, it does not have pilot lights so is much safer. I would not be without it when cooking, it is adjustable and so much better than the electric stoves.

Like most thngs it is down to commonsense, you have adequate ventialtion. I lived with gas ducted heating for years and it was fantastic, now I have a modern reverse cycle air conditioner in rented priperty and it is great for cooling but useless ofr heating, I ended up buying an electric heater. I grew up with nothing but gas for cooking and in a family of 6 none of us had any problems, we also had a coal fire.. I take all these so called studies with a grain of salt.

When I grew up we used gas stoves in the kitchen but that area had plenty off windows which were always open so fumes were never a problem. We ended up on electricity for cooking when we moved and haven't used it since but some areas in Australia that is all they use and have for years.

This blows my minf

I personally don't like gas. I've had it in the past and felt it always caused mold, but European kitchens and Australian kitchens aren't the same. We have far better circulation and range hoods etc. while they don't tend to use them overseas. My mother cooked with gas for most of her life without problem and my daughter loves gas and swears by it, but I'll stake my induction cooktop against hers any day.

APB well said

Takes a while to notice the kitchen doesn't smell of gas!

Although I loved the quickness of gas operation I have come to realize how quick, efficient and silent my electric induction cooker is. With no chemical smells. Big drop in energy bills

When I get gas my wife thinks she is going to die.

We love to cook with gas because it is easier to control the flow and temp. than electricity but in saying that, we recently had a new cooktop installed into our old house that is relatively high off the ground and we could often smell gas but thought it was from the meter. We found out that we had a slow gas leak for the past 30 years and because of the house it would disperse which is a bit scary because hubby was a smoker

When it comes to cooking fuels, you have gas, coal, wood, electricity. There are issues with each. Electricity is probably the cleanest, assuming that the electricity is not produced with gas, coal, or wood. This leaves electricity from hydro or nuclear. There are issues with each. Gas, like wood and coal, creates off-gases when burned. The biggest thing for safety when it comes to any cooking appliance is ensuring that everything is properly maintained. This minimizes any negative effects associated with their use. There will always be an element of risk. As far as profit motives are concerned, there will always be a risk associated with how people are compensated. When safety is not a factor that is part of the compensation package, there will likely be a higher level of risk to account for.

Yes we have gas in Australia but the government wants us to stop using gas and its going up in price every year

We had gas in the house we purchased earlier this year. For hot water and heating. I really didn't like it and it took ages to get it uninstalled. I don't like its prospects for the future, pollution wise, and so forth.

Did you read the study that you as done, it included guess work by them. It's not like they've looked at the actual cause of death of these 40,000 people

I don't like gas. My Dad was a gas fitter and they had gas supplied to their house by the developers. The cost got so much for the supply and to be metered Dad told them he refused to use it. They have a gas cooker any way Dad rigged it up to run on LPG and they use 2 9kg gas bottles a year if that. It's so expensive and then there's the rental on the bottle. We now have finally gone to Swap n Go but we hardly use gas at all now. We used to use it for heating when we first got here but we now have 2 new air cons we use for both heating and cooling. Some of the stories Dad has told me over the years about gas in caravans. He has saved a few lives I am sure. It is scary if not in the right hands that is for sure.

This is probably bottled gas, the majority of us in Aust. use mains natural gas.

Gas is very available in Australia and is cheap compared to a lot of renewables at present. It is efficient in the right hands.

Things are always hidden here.

Wasn’t aware

Not until the gas companies have been successfully tried and found guilty in court. The punishment has to be severe and really, really expensive including full disclosure. This strategy worked pretty well against the tobacco industry.

need to be checked often.

I do not trust Gas burners and stoves . My husband prefers gas but after I had a gas oven explode and knocked me across the room because the Landlord did not tell us it had a leak He understand why I am afraid of them. It broke all my dishes as as well. NO gas stoves for me.

Easy answer is never they are making a killing selling all this dangerous junk so they figure Buyer Beware. After all they sell as much as possible Over Seas and fight like hell when they are forced to keep some onshore for use in Australia. That should be telling you something.

Wow. I didnt know that and I live in Australia too. I totally agree its all about the money and profits they are making, while the intrest rates and cost of living is enough already.

Older appliances, or gas bottles that are not regularly checked by professionals can become faulty and dangerous,especially when people think they can install their own oven or fix things on their own. Also earthquakes,fires etc can cause gas leaks which can take out whole buildings. In Aus we had a spate of people getting severe burns from b.b.q gas bottles because the connections were damaged or from very old bottles. Be sensible, don't cut corners and figure you can save money by attempting something you shouldn't be doing. We don't have piped gas,we purchase gas tanks,only for cooking. We pay for the gas up front,we also pay service fee from our supplier to maintain the tanks,connections etc. I have lived here for 3 years and only had to pay for 2 tanks worth of gas as it is only to cook with. Much cheaper then electricity for me.

I have never liked using a gas stove. I hate the way gas smells. I do use a propane gas grill, but that doesn't smell bad, and it is outdoors.

'The researchers' are clearly biased. I would dispute those figures all day long...

After getting married, my stove was gas & I was terrified of it. Hated using it. We also had gas heat & if pilot light ever went out & husband wasn't home, I layered on the clothes & toughed it out. Of course, anyone trying to sell anything are always gonna make it sound wonderful! They care more about making a dollar than they care about another human being.

Rolling Stones, a whole lot of gas stuff, and then Abba

Sounds like a whole lot of Who shot John!!! Statistics…..you can make them mean anything EG, we all breathe, we all die ergo breathing causes death……lol ………whatever you agenda is

No matter what the product people try to sale they never tell us about the negative sides of the products..

Gas or electricity,both can kill you ,invest in common sense, when using either. youll live longer that way....😍

gas is better than wind turbines that do notv work in high wind . Michael

I grew up with gas stoves and had one most of my adult life and don't have any asthma, cancer, ect. My parents still have their gas stove and don't have any breathing problems and are in their 80's. My grandma had a gas stove and lived to 91 with no heart or lung problems. I think the numbers are skewed and other things contributed to these people's deaths, for instance, some of them may have been smokers, overweight, had diabetes and just happened to also cook with gas. Most stoves have overhead fans you can use, and you can also crack a window while cooking if you're worried about it. I live in an apt now and HATE the electric stove. Plus, when the power goes out, I can't cook! Natural gas is also a cheaper utility than electricity.

I don't like gas at all. From when I was a kid and the gas oven blew up in Mums face, I have never liked gas.

I don't care if I gasp due to my gas cooking. I like my gas. I like my gas heater. When I die the cremator is gas, gas, gas. It's a GAS, man!! Im sick of ppl and governments telling me I can't choose what energy I prefer!!!!! NOTHING comes without some risks. I bet you will be buying an electric car, APB?

in Wellington, the council doesn't want new buildings to have gas which is good. My mum prefers cooking with gas, but it scares me if i'm being honest.

gasx

Yes, and a study by reputed scientists showed conclusively that the moon is made up of green cheese. Do your own research, and check sources of any “facts” listed, as person quoting them, many times, has an axe to grind, and mis-quotes, exaggerates or out and out lies

Stories such as fires or injury from using gas have always deterred me from having a gas stove

Gas fires my cook top, hot water and the fire in the lounge. I have no issues with it. I love cooking with gas, the heat is so immediate. Using the electric oven costs far too much. I cook mainly with slow cooker, cook top and microwave. No doubt people will have issues with microwaving food.

im a gas fitter so i love gas

I would love to change my gas hit plates over to induction, but it’s not cheap.

That's a concerning report! The study's findings are alarming, highlighting the significant health risks associated with gas cookers. It's shocking that twice as many people die from gas cooker use as from car accidents in Europe.

The issue is with gas appliances that are NOT vented. If it has a vent that extracts the fumes/cooking vapour, outside and away from you, it is safe enough. But if it is not, then those fumes ARE potentially very hazardous to your health, especially that of your children, and elderly or unwell folk. I live full time in my caravan, and gave up using gas altogether, for this very reason. It is even more unsafe in a confined space like a caravan. People need to stop with these conspiracy theories, that researchers, scientists or other qualified experts, are just trying to con you. That line of thinking is beyond ridiculous. Nobody is trying to con you. They are simply doing what they can to protect your health and wellbeing. Sure, not every smoker will get lung cancer, but a great many, will. Same goes here. Some people might get away with using gas appliances, with no (obvious) issues, but the health of many others, will be seriously impacted. We have a wealth of peer reviewed, professional scientific/medical research available globally. Anyone who chooses to dismiss that, without doing their own due diligence, is a fool.

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Options, you need it, when electricity is turned OFF, or the government stops supply, you need an alternative to cook with, otherwise it's woodfire cooking & heating.

researchers have a tendancy to agree with whoever is paying them

I wouldn’t worry. In Australia they’re phasing out and soon it will be illegal for any new builds to have gas fixtures

I wouldn't ever have a gas appliance. It's too dangerous. It's also one reason why hydrogen-powered cars will never really be successful.

I only let off gas in the bathroom.

They're just trying to cover up the amount of problem caused by passive smoking or something, by blaming it on gas, just like they tried to cover up a lot of the deaths caused by cancer by blaming them on Covid 19. I don't think Gas is as bad as explained above.

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HI Mopos, ty

I think gas is cheaper than electricity, and can be used during a black out. I have it by bottles not in a pipe network. Still I didn't know much about what is being discussed above though. I hear the Australian adds more trying to make everyone change to electricity for global warming reasons or something.

DID YOU RESEARCH? or just repeat the MSM BS? Did they give details no. GEE having sex will give you a heart attachk according to the same scaremongers. bet I could find many research article that debunk yours as well as 77 years of living with gas cooking and heating and all myself and all the other 20 thousand in our town, have NEVER known anyone that died from gas part from MISUSE. so dont blame gas for stupid people

Restaurants cannot turn over meals with out gas it would be a nightmare I love gas cooking meal in 20 mins and I have gas water heater instant hot water and a gas heater I have these appliances serviced regularly for peace of mind not expensive and I sleep with all my windows open in the kitchen area about 10 cms and the whole house the same in case of any leaks .The Government just want to enforce electricity as it expensive benefit for them

From my experience I could have a meal cooked and eaten by the time the frypan heated enough to get started. I have always found cooking with electricity so frustrating. The same with heating, instant heat. I have been checking out the new electric induction cook tops and they do seem to be much improved. I just picture in my mind a restaurant kitchen with no gas.

I am surprised at the statistics. 40 000 people dying a year in Europe from gas cookers seem like a huge amount. We need to be safe with any energy source that we use. My mother in law has been using gas for years on her stove and in her oven and has not had any issues. It would be important to make sure that the stove and oven are both turned off when finished cooking with them.

Gas sucks and it is horrible for your health and I have been saying this for over 30 years and laughed when science caught up (or at least publicly admitted it). I noticed it when I lived in a house where EVERYTHING was on gas. I was not impressed with how it made me feel and did not enjoy cooking with it at all. My next house, I had everything electric (there was no such thing as induction back then). Electric is easier to clean and gives you better temperature control for cooking and does not smell. I was not surprised to find out that even when gas is turned off, it still leaks because I could smell the residual/slow emitting gas even when things were turned off (and this is different to a dangerous gas leak). My current house, I put in induction and it is the best thing ever. It is quicker than anything else I have used. It is rubbish that gas is safe and it "obeys" you. It is also more toxic for the environment as the passive leaking puts more co2 in the atmosphere than cow farts. What is even worse is all the lies we have been told by gas companies for centuries on how good it is when it is worse for our health and the planet's health than everything else so DO NOT BELIEVE the bs they are saying about "green gas" as there is no such thing. This "green gas" is just green washing and just an excuse for them to keep gas in business. "Green gas" is just as damaging to you and the environment as normal gas. GO ELECTRIC, people.

gas is great and safe.

I love my gas cooking

Love it

Gas is cheap its clean only problem is people need to know to use it.and know when it's dangerous

I gas I will not use it.

Hi lan,ty

Charcoal or campfire is all I use

I would never have gas cookers I just don't like them at all. Your information was very interesting APB, thank you.

I don't feel safe using gas cookers

I do not have any gas in my home and never would my mother had a gas heater in her sitting room and it was leaking one day so we had it removed but she was ok but I think we got it done just in time she went on to live to 98Edited 06-Nov-24 05:48am

Love gas cooking and we have a lot of gas and the little we use makes no difference to Climate change

wood burner cost less

My aunts overseas only ever used gas to cook and wash their clothes. The place always smelled of gas. They lived into their nineties. They are trying to stop us using gas yet the Government will continue to sell gas to other countries. It contradicts what we are being told.

The grid is going to crash, then what? No heat or cooking. Use all utilities safely.

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I PERFER TO COOK ONN GAS

It seems the whole world is turning to electricity, either from water, wind or sun power. I'm sure gas is on it's way out in every area of our lives. ;-D

I had a gas stove and it whit on fire on me

NEVER HAD ANY WORRIES WITH MY GAS STOVE

I don't deal with gas stove.

Your choice. Don't whine when the lung and other cancers creep in. LOL!

The is always data somewhere that will tell you something will hurt you. I paid $16,000 for solar panels and now only I get 3c a kw feed in and still have electricity bills. I am not getting rid of any of my gas appliances only to have nothing as a back up during furture blackouts when too many people go over to overloaded, unreliable renewable systems. They are not nice I lived with organised black and brown outs in Qld not doing it again.

We have a gas stove/oven.

Do any of 'us' wants to go back to 'cavemen days' - I know I don't - lol! Anyway, with modern domicile progress comes risk. You decide what risk you are willingly to accept and live with.