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Would you report an elderly shoplifter, or let it go?
Susan 126530226-Aug-24
The other day, I noticed an elderly woman shoplift in a grocery store. I felt sorry for her - she must have been low on money to buy food, and so she was stealing.
Would you report an elderly shoplifter or let it go OR
maybe offer to buy the item for her?
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  • buy the item for him/her
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    • Let it go!
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      • I would buy it for her if she really needed it.
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        • Let it go that's a no brainer to me .
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          • I would report them to the store manager and the police.
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            • By reporting them you are helping them to get help they need so that they do not need to steal anymore
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              • I'd encourage them to return it and I'd offer to purchase what they needed
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                • If the senior is in such a state that they have to steal food and risk getting the police involved, then I say let them go. Seniors ar the reason that there are juniors. We need to make sure thay have enough money so they don't have to steal.
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                  • Shawn, GOD BLESS YOU. Great answer.
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                  • Shawn B 1061185Terry 1550339
                    Thank you for your response. In my mind the crime is letting our seniors die from malnutrition.
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                • I HAVENT BEEN CAUGHT YET
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                  • let them go....not hurting any one...... Unfortunately companies are making a BIG profit at our expense
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                    • unfortunately, these are a sign of our time's profit before people, i have often given the vouchers I earn from Rewardia to the elderly who I see with little in their carts, i have paid for the groceries of the elderly just to see the smile on there faces, not everyone gets a golden ticket into retirement there is always a side story, you can see that by what's in someone's cart, whatever the reason somebody steals especially the elderly and I am one 2, if you can help them, help, even if you say I saw dont you think they did, offer to help change someone's day you might feel better about yourself
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                      • Let them go, they are struggling as it is. Big corporations make ridiculous amounts of profit anyway
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                        • me personally,i would let it go,after all,nobody really bats an eye when ceo of large companies steal,or how the government steals off you,when these large corporations raise their prices just out of greed,after all,the australia institute came oit and said 69% of the price rises were because they can,not because they had to,what about pollies who continue to rack up massive "expenses" because they can,people need to realise the world runs on graft and corruption,its everywhere
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                          • Undecided
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                            • Not just elderly, there’s also young people or people with any age 🥹 super market or alike should have a day for oldies or needies with a limit of $30 to $50 for 20%off. This way to avoid others to abuse the system and is really for the needs who required the assistance. 🫣
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                              • I would have a chat and buy the item/s for them. I feel for those that have to resort to theft to eat and it's tough for a lot of them because supermarkets are allowed to keep putting prices up on necessities and ignoring the elderly. They should have something in place for the elderly to get necessities in their stores if they produce a pension card - all the supermarkets are making millions in profits so they can afford to help out.
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                                • Don't be fooled by that "Little Old, Poor man or woman" act, for act it is. Supermarkets report losses totalling billions from just this sort of theft every year. Someone has to make up the shortfall and it is us, the other shoppers (I am in my 80s, an Old Age Pensioner and have no need to steal) We make up the shortfall with having to pay Higher Prices. I get sick to death of hearing people complaining as to how hard it is for them to cope financially yet many of them can still afford to go to the Pub, Gamble, use Illegal drugs and then demand that "the government" bail them out. Every year older people, sometimes the same older person, go to the media whining about their latest Electricity Bill but they are not prepared to trim back their usage. My sole income is the Australian Old Age Pension. I pay all my bills on time, I eat very well, I keep warm in the winter and cool in summer - without expensive Air Conditioning, Repoprt the thieves for that is what they are and it doesn't matter what age they are.
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                                  • Report it
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                                    • Offer to buy the item.
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                                      • Try to talk to the person first and then if they are rude, or brush you off, report them. Theft is theft and if it is left to escalate, then we end up paying for it through higher prices.
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                                        • Theft is theft
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                                          • let it go
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                                            • Depends what they are stealing. If its big items then yes but a small chocolate bar no. But I would keep and eye out for them again and then dop them in.
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                                              • Yes because there might be underlying issues going on, and by reporting the older people they then get the help that they may need. Ignoring it, dosent help at all.
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                                                • I would offer to help the person first in a kind way. If they insisted I would report them. I am 75 myself and would never do this even though I live on a pension.
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                                                  • I would do the same. It all depends on the item stolen: if they are in desperate need or if its just a sport. Anyone in need has my support and I'd buy it for them. If it's for the "thrill" well, I hope custody gives enough because theft is a crime we all pay for.
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                                                • As a teen,long ago I worked in a bakehouse. We sold bread,cakes pies etc. Every day ,at the end of the day we would bag up leftovers and families in need( mainly with many children,back then it wasn't unusual for people to have up to a dozen kids) and hand them out. We would clean the shop and start fresheners day. The owner would tell the families that it helped him out as he couldn't sell" day old stock". He was a very humble and generous man. Never forgot that.
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                                                  • Kindness is never forgotten
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                                                • Do a random act of kindness,
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                                                  • let it go
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                                                    • We all eventually pay for their crime, prices go up. The shop has to pay for more security. They may get away with a few times but eventually they will be caught and embarrassed by having to wait at the front of the shop waiting for the police to come and pick them up. Seen it happen out side of Big W just before Christmas a while ago. Stealing is stealing no matter what age you are and the older you are the better you should know. Not a good idea and be careful because if you help them then you could become involved they may take you away too. Isn't it aiding and abetting. We have laws for a reason and the less we have to do with the police the better. I get people are struggling but there are places they can go to for extra food and essentials. Help them find those places.
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                                                      • I would mind my own business
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                                                        • I would quickly go and buy a giftcard, if time permitted, and "suddenly see" her and offer it to her as an unwanted gift I'd recieved that I didn't need. If I didn't have time then I'd say that she must have dropped the $50 which I just happened to notice under her trolley telling her how important that money must be to her and how awful it would have been to get to the checkout to find out she didn't have it! If someone saw her stealing and looked like they would say something to the store security I would say that she was minding it for me and pay for it without another word! We ALL need our dignity and the elderly have already been through so much and paid taxes for decades and paid into their superannuation or 401K just so they could retire independently but in this economy they can barely manage rent, energy, bread, milk and butter. I've had good financial times in my life and hideous ones but I have learned to be grateful with what I have and there's just no way I'd stand buy and do nothing in this circumstance that could help this person. If it was a "wolf pack" of young teenagers however I'd be saying something but unfortunately the law would do nothing in this case! Thanks for reading .
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                                                          • Let her go
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                                                            • Let him go
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                                                              • I would pretend I saw nothing. And I might give her or him some money out of the shop, always if they stole some food.
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                                                                • offer to pay, and remind them it is theft. Depending on the response as to if I report or not
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                                                                  • I would offer to pay for their items.
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                                                                    • I would just pay without giving them the opportunity to say no. Sometimes it's much harder to accept than to give!
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                                                                    • SugadasMichelle S 553303
                                                                      Yes, that would be better. And no loss of respect, either. Best, Janie
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                                                                    • Danielle R 478487Michelle S 553303
                                                                      Very true
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                                                                  • I see them every day, "tasting" the fruits like it was already paid.
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                                                                    • I would offer to help pay, if they were in real need, I would try to get the store to help with some discount
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                                                                      • I would offer to pay for there grocerys if I had the money other wise I take no notice as its really hard for some of them to pay for there food but there is help out there at food banks or meals on wheels that could help them and I would give them the contact to these
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                                                                        • most likely not would feel sorry for them
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                                                                          • Let them go. NOT MY BUSINESS
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                                                                            • i would help her and then i would give her a gift card to buy more food if she needed it
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                                                                              • I would probably offer to buy her items for her.
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                                                                                • I would speak with her and pay if that was what was needed and help in any way I could
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                                                                                  • Every case is individual.
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                                                                                    • What about when the stores (grocery) are robbing us blindly?
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                                                                                      • I would offer to pay and ask if there is anything else they need,ie medication. It's difficult for most to get by,elderly must be struggling. If i was really worried I would contact the community foodstore and or meals on wheels. Depends where you live,but in Australia most areas have some sort of food relief. It's not advertised,usually done by referral or word of mouth.
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                                                                                        • I still get a bag of groceries for $12 from Anglicare every pension day. It works out to be around $35 in total value! I go to the supermarkets and buy whatever fruit and vegetables are on clearance, Mondays after lunch is a good time because the weekend rush is over and they have to get ris of the salads, mushrooms and berries before the next trucks come in with fresh stuff. I've often ended up with a fortnights supply of dinner vegetables for less than $20 and there are online stores which sell the "imperfect" fruit and vegetables which Coles, Woolworths etc reject and for about $45, delivery included, I end up with over 6 kgs of fruit and vegetables which lasts me 3 weeks and I use the stuff which will go bad soonest and the cabbage, potatoes and pumpkin I leave till last. I know that the aid organisations have tightened up on what grocery store card amounts they give and how frequently but they also limit how many they give out annually too. The best places are the ones that get food deliveries as well as bread and if you're lucky enough to live nearby to one and you're not overly fussy you can eat almost for free! Being in Australia too I wanted to cover everything in case there's someone else reading this who might benefit from these services! Thanks for reading.
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                                                                                        • Danielle R 478487Michelle S 553303
                                                                                          I wasn't aware of imperfect fruit and vege. That's a good one,as someone who has received assistance before that was something I couldn't always afford. I live rural so I now tend to swap with neighbours as I grow some fruit and vege,the rest I go to farmers markets. Mainly because it's locals helping locals. Many farms sell excess on the main road outside their home with an "honour" box to pay. More ideas the better. So many doing it tough,gotta help each other as much as we can.
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                                                                                      • I would offer to pay for it and any other items she needed.
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                                                                                          • I'd most likely be his eyes
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                                                                                            • Id Offer to pay for the item
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                                                                                              • I would tell her I saw her & she could get in a lot of trouble. I'd offer to buy the food & if I happened to have extra myself, I'd get her additional items.
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                                                                                                • I would tell the person I saw them. There is always a victim even if it is a large company. The store may of been just below projected profits and a store worker may not get a raise and everyone who shops at that store will have to pay extra for their merchandise to make up for the loss. I wouldn't turn someone in but we all know stealing is wrong.
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                                                                                                  • not reporting, we are all being robbed
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                                                                                                  • With how much money big corporations make from hiking food prices and shrinking the amounts?? Nope.
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                                                                                                    • In the current market with so many of us doing it TUFF, I would never consider calling out anyone who is desperate and doing it tuff. The supermarket are making HUGE profits on groceries and a few stolen items by someone in a desperate situation should be overlooked.
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                                                                                                      • I wouldn’t say shit!The grocery stores rob us…so she’s just trying to eat!Shes not stealing a car or robbing a bank.Hell maybe she wants to go to jail…free food and bed at night …You asked!
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                                                                                                        • Its getting to a point where were all gonna go into the grocery store and just open up something and eat. what are they gonna do arrest all of us? :) hhehe Ready to eat meals are easy target.
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                                                                                                        • As someone who spent 35 years as a loss prevention manager in retail stores, most of the theft was for unnecessary items. There were times after I interviewed the person you could tell if the theft was out of desperation. At times like that if i had the money on me I would buy the food myself for the person. But most of the time it was pure and simple theft.
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                                                                                                          • Totally agree with you Lachelle B. Times are tough, especially for our most vulnerable
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                                                                                                            • With the amount of cameras everywhere they'd likely be caught. I would approach them and offer to buy their food.
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                                                                                                              • He"s been doing it for years time to pull him up and tell there"s people can help down at Vinnies or the Selvo's.
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                                                                                                                • Twice I saw teenagers {with babys} One I know her father, I offered to pay for what she had hidden, but she denied it. She got caught at the counter by a security camera
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                                                                                                                  • I would not report it but help pay for the items.
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                                                                                                                    • I would not report it but would pay it for her. Then would she what her home is like and if she had any grandchildren to help out.
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                                                                                                                      • yes report it
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                                                                                                                        • Shoplifting is stealing no matter who does it. It is not fair for the shop owner. If they can't buy things there are other ways to obtain them So, yes I would report.
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                                                                                                                            • I don't think that I'd report any shoplifter.
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                                                                                                                              • definately let it go- the elderly are really struggling
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                                                                                                                                • IT IS NOT RIGHT TO SHOPLIFT BUT SOME TIME THE OLD JUST DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY IT
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                                                                                                                                  • Let it go.
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                                                                                                                                    • I would kindly suggest in a quiet manner to her/him that they put it back and do not risk themselves of being caught etc etc. Just not worth it and indeed not right as that is part of the reason prices just keep going up and up for the rest of us.
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                                                                                                                                        • I would let him or her go because they are on low pension and they need the food more than we do.
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                                                                                                                                          • i would not report it but offer my help. if it happened in line i would buy it for her.
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                                                                                                                                              • But.......WHAT IF the elderly person is a kleptomanic??? And you knew it???? And they had stolen from your own home for the past 20 years?????
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                                                                                                                                                • I would imagine that I'd feel differently on this occasion!
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                                                                                                                                              • I would not look the other way but depending on what her theft was I would offer to pay for it the embarrassment of being caught just once and being trespassed from a store would be horrifying
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                                                                                                                                                • look the other way is what I would do...if life is that tough, I don't need to add to it
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                                                                                                                                                  • No. Depending on how much it was, I would offer to pay for it.
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                                                                                                                                                    • i would tell her where to get free food. lots of it here in ohio
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                                                                                                                                                      • I would never turn anyone in that is stealing food, nor would I do it period, but especially if it's food. Food is so high priced and I will not fault anyone for being hungry and trying to feed themselves.
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                                                                                                                                                          • No I would not report her but offer to buy and pay for whatever she needed......gotta take care of our elderly because the government sure don't.
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                                                                                                                                                            • If there were other customers close by I'd rather not embarrass the elderly person by asking questions but would offer to pay if I was next in line behind them.
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                                                                                                                                                              • The cost of living is getting ridiculous. This is why elderly people are stealing because they can’t afford to buy food. I would’ve given them the money or asked them why they are stealing and given them phone numbers for support . We have food bank here that people on low incomes can go to get cheaper food items. We also have places that give out food vouchers and food items. We have opportunity shops that give out free bread and fruit and vegetables .instead of being a snitch ask the question. The person may have the onset of dementia. We also have soup kitchens. We also have a place that washes clothes for the homeless.
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                                                                                                                                                                • It sounds like a good place you live in! With the elderly, and taking my own father as an example who is turning 85 years old next week, often they are too proud to seek help unless they are truly desperate and they feel wrong just going to a place like a community pantry. They've never accepted help like this before and prided themselves on not needing to. I think that stealing is a last resort but often the elderly have no concept of just how many different types of surveillance technologies are watching them. I'm SO tired of having to call over the already busy person manning the self service checkout because the computer thinks I've still got something in my trolley or I moved a bag out of its range. I don't think anyone but the desperate would attempt to steal at a grocery store if they knew that Big Brother was watching them 10 different ways!
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                                                                                                                                                              • There are those that are homeless that would never shop lift and even care for an animal before themselves. These people have no roof over their heads. There is help in Australia for those that are struggling. Another news clip a long time ago showed a mother and two daughters claiming they could not afford to buy food yet to observe their body weight they were not starving but in actual fact over weight compared to many overseas that are skin and bones.
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                                                                                                                                                                • That certainly happens. Definitely never help those due to greed. Need is one thing, but some people do it out of pure greed .
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                                                                                                                                                                • This is often true but some people, unless they've had it REALLY tough, don't understand the large amount of basic grocery items they can buy with the same money that they just spent on one meal of useless calories at McDonald's! Some people grew up not knowing how to make a "meat and 3 veg" dinner or just how easy it is to make pancakes or pikelests at home for an after school treat. I used to do informal fostering through my church and these kids lived on either fish fingers, party pies and sausage rolls served with the obligatory chips and frozen peas. Their health was TERRIBLE and one child actually asked me what beans and carrots were! He was 5! I am forever grateful to have had a mother who though not actually academically smart was brilliant when it came to making do with little and making stuff that used cheap cuts of meat which were tender and delicious! She's been dead 21 years but I mention it now because my brother and I used to call her "mother dumb" and I wish with every fibre of my being that I could apologise to her, repeatedly, and tell her that what she taught me was more valuable than all the gold in the world! Sorry, tears falling now and I hope that you have a good day!
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                                                                                                                                                                • Danielle R 478487Michelle S 553303
                                                                                                                                                                  I would suggest to you Michelle that she knows you truly lived and appreciated everything she did as a loving mother. Sometimes we say things that aren't complimentary to each other,but it doesn't change the affection and care we have for each other. My mother was a hard woman,lived a hard life I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. For a long time I couldn't relate to her at all. Felt she was uncaring and cold. As an older person now with my own family I look back and wonder how on earth she managed Woking full time,raising myself and my siblings while in constant pain. I learnt so much from her and gained a personal strength I wouldn't have had she not been who she was. I will always be thankful for that.
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                                                                                                                                                              • Depends upon the circumstances. Reporting it may be doing them a favour; if they are unable to afford food then it may allow services to be put in place for them. Just paying for the groceries for them may not be helpful in the long term as it just perpetuates the problem, and does not deal with the main issue. Being unable to pay may just be a symptom of other issues such as dementia, addictions, or something else that is not a short term fix.
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                                                                                                                                                                • We were in dollarama in Canada one there wss an Indian in the store he was stealing stuff & paid for half his stuff stole rest the lady at register didn't call the cops cause here they do nothing
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                                                                                                                                                                  • pay for items
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Of course I would. That is why prices are so high with all the stealing
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Would I report elderly grocery shoplifter or any age grocery shoplifter - NO - but I am not a snitch. Hopeful, I 'will not' outlive my money and have to steal groceries to survive. The 'real' problem is the cost of groceries is beyond the income of senior citizens and the working poor on a 'fixed income'! The 'real criminals' are region, or nation-wide grocery stores which operate on the principle - profits over people - aka CORPORATE GREED!
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                                                                                                                                                                        • OR THE GREED DISPLAYED DURING RIOTS AND LOOTING? IS CORPORATE GREED TO BLAME FOR THE BLM LOOTING??
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Let it go...
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Wrong is wrong if your don’t want the consequences don’t do the crime
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                                                                                                                                                                          • I don't think I would report them. I do think I would try to get in line behind them and pay for whatever they have in their cart so they would have a little extra money for the next time they shopped. If it were someone that I personally knew I would later drop a care package off to them.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • It depends on what she’s stealing. If it was food or toiletries I wouldn’t do anything. But alcohol or cigarettes I would say something.
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                                                                                                                                                                              • The department stores do encourage it. So people should not be afraid to speak up. Better to be an honest person than accept cheats. We all are guilty if we ignore crime. But the CTV cameras pick up much of the shop lifting.
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                                                                                                                                                                                • No, the police may end up shooting the shoplifter in my country, so it's not worth her life.
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • I wish you were wrong in your assessment but if the person stealing stuff had an active mental illness then they'd pull the gun out first and discuss the shoplifting later, like after the person who was stealing was dead by cop!
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                                                                                                                                                                                • I wouldn't report any shoplifter. You never know what's going on with them.
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