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The mighty quill
Paula J 39526627-Mar-25
If I want to protest, complain or even compliment I put pen to paper and send it either by snail mail or email, but others glue themselves to roadways, make a racket at a function, block waterways or interrupt speeches etc. which inconveniences others. When I write they have my name and contact details, someone reads it and in 99% of cases I get a reply. This does have advantages because I am then on their list of contacts, so I get newsletters as well as information as to what is going on, petitions and what is happening in State Parliament. Before Covid, I received samples and other products, was invited to morning tea at NSW Parliament House, invited to schmoozie doo's and met politicians, and I inconvenience no-one. Sometimes things I have complained about change, and you can't ask for better than that.
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  • Pamela B 862973
    I like a pen
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    • Janet 1621979
      I like pen.
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      • Amber 22
        Yes this is the best way pen can be the tools you need
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        • Priscilla R 316016
          The pen is mightier than the sword [and all protest demonstrations too]
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          • Jennifer 1637197
            Pen to paper
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            • alexandra e 583849
              I do the same if I need to add my opinion. I absolutely hate protesters walking down the road stopping me getting to where I am going let alone those who splash paint on buildings/ art works or stop commercial ships in a harbour.
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              • Rose S 88496
                Pen and paper for me ….. no inconvenience to anyone
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                • Glenice L 1244113
                  In a civilized world with educated and caring leaders/politicians, a little ink on paper could stir responses or change. Yet the rate of responses is another matter as the protest letters are usually contrary to the administrations agendas. Perhaps that's why some people may resort to more overt means of expressions for changes. It's a hard world now, so the fight for justice and righteousness continues!
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                  • Noreen 1641671
                    The pen is mightier than the sword
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                    • Saara F
                      Good on you. Great to always speak up for what you believe in.
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                      • Sylvia Y
                        A written protest is the best way, I am sick of seeing these idiots protesting and blocking streets so people cant get around,often wonder who is funding them. Perhaps it is time we turned the hoses on them.
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                        • Connie B 1227041
                          This is the very best way to do it
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                          • Jennifer H 722364
                            Not all people can construct a letter that is about a complaint or issue the invites and updates seem like a bride to keep you happy while trying to find an answer for the issue at hand .Buy offs
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                            • Robert D 1075412
                              Good to read stand up for what you believe in.
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                              • Bugalugs
                                Yes, writing, especially, a hand-written or typed letter rather than an email, does get results. Are all these people, seemingly of all ages, who join demonstrations, block streets, throw piant and deface buildings and then go to Art Galleries throw soup or paint or seriously damage artworks, they seem to forget that though these are owned by the State that means they are really damaging their own property, genuine protestors or just nothing more than part of Rent-a-Crowd hooligans? All they do is annoy people, they acheive Nothing, but then I suppose as most of them are Ignorant, ill-mannered Female and Male louts they would be incapable of writing an intelligent letter we can expect nothing more from them. Maybe instead of a simple Fine the Courts should really throw the book at them a send them to Prison for a couple of years with No paeole, No Rich Mummy and Daddy being able to hire expensive, corrupt lawyers to defend them and No Appeals.
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                                • Pam G 449028
                                  Maybe the NSW government want to know how how or what their constituents think, unlike VIC. Never get anything back from them!!
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                                  • Paula J 395266
                                    Not all of them reply. When The Greens wanted to change the abortion laws making it legal to obtain an abortion right up to the delivery date I was horrified so I wrote to every single member of the legislative assembly but only 2 members replied, and both agreed with me. Thankfully the motion was defeated.
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                                • Pat C 618241
                                  Congratulations on your mighty pen. Alas most of my written matter has never received such admirable results, nonetheless, I am pleased to live where the pen is still mightier than the sword!
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                                  • Paula J 395266
                                    I am sorry that you don't get replies. On one occasion I received 2 replies but when I wrote to every single member of the legislative assembly asking them not to change the abortion laws only 2 members replied, but the bill was voted down.
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                                • Wendy Q
                                  I belive in numbers, get as many people on your side with similar objectives to collectively and individual hammer home your concerns to whomever. Emails, Social Pages, etc to councillors, politicians and individuals.
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                                  • Rosaleen 1653738
                                    Happy for you
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                                    • Vicky 1645808
                                      I think this is a great idea!
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                                      • Juliet 1653746
                                        !!!
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                                        • Smiley
                                          I am a Google guide and am often leaving honest, truthful feedback and reviews about all types of businesses, parks, sports facilities, etc online. I have only had 1 business contact me to offer a full refund if i was to suggest ways for them to improve their business and for me to change my review. If i have a complaint, i always go straight to the person/business first to try and get it corrected, if they ignore my requests to talk, only then do i make a negative review or give negative feedback publicly.
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                                          • Paula J 395266
                                            I leave reviews on Product Review but I'll only contact a company if I am extremely happy with the product or service or if I have been treated badly or ripped off. My last compliment received a "you have made my day" which I was happy with.
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                                        • Shawn B 1061185
                                          Yes, you're optimism gives me some hope. Too bad I don't live where you do. People in charge here couldn't give a rats behind what you think as long as they get their way.
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                                          • Paula J 395266
                                            Oh, that's sad.
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                                          • Shawn B 1061185Paula J 395266
                                            It's all about the Benjamins ($100.00 U.S.)
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                                        • Mooi
                                          I also write mainly to politicians regarding animal welfare issues and they are very good at replying with their automated generic replies. Protests make a difference because when they disrupt traffic or daily life they get more notice. The protests that I have been on are always well planned and with permission to hold that protest. It’s a shame that we have to do these things in the first place but politicians especially and some industries never keep thei promises.
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                                          • Paula J 395266
                                            My opinion is MINE and I would never force it upon anyone else or inconvenience because it's annoying and gets people's back up. Protests rarely change anything.
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                                          • MooiPaula J 395266
                                            I agree with you that you are entitled to keep your opinions to yourself and not force them on others but when you see and hear about cruelty, exploitation and violence and abuse and I am mainly talking about the voiceless animals (they do have a voice but not many listen) awareness through writing and or protesting is the only way to try and stop it.
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                                        • Dottie 1043512
                                          Good for you
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                                          • Michael 1324355
                                            In my school at Sacred Heart School in Newport Victoria 3015 we used to play AFL Football on Friday Afternoons .Michael
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                                            • Paula J 395266
                                              Real men don't play AFL.
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                                          • Ellessri
                                            I sign petitions and write to my mp via email - the petitions usually get a more thought out response, mps just have auto responses
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                                            • Daniel A 2
                                              I write emails occasionaly, or send prewritten emails. All I get in automatic thankyou's or common emails everyone on the list get.
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                                              • boy blunder
                                                If the pen is mightier than the sword why do actions speak louder than words, personally, I take action if I feel wronged by never using the service or company again, I have walked out of jobs for wrongful accusations,i have stopped shopping at certain shops because of management changes, would I ever stoop to violence no, I've written letters before never had a reply, i once wrote a letter to the minister of housing here in sa because they were paying me to clean house that they were demolishing, that cost me my job ,
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                                                • Paula J 395266
                                                  I will write to a business telling them why I won't be patronising them again. Otherwise they would never notice.
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                                                • Danielle R 478487
                                                  Yes I agree,sometimes it takes more than words. Your loyalty to brands and services make a difference, especially when you are in contact with with others that use the same service. If your opinion is valued then a bad experience can have a big impact ,just like a great experience can turn a new business into a popular choice.
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                                                • boy blunder
                                                  i used to be a loyal Woolies man until I joined their card plans 10% of this is big i love it, but it wasn't there the next fortnight why not I ask, we can't afford it they say, fair enough so i went to coles they do the same thing so each fortnight we shop at different stores we spend an average of 800 to 1000 a fortnight so we save 80 to 100 a fortnight, in today's world that's a big savings , the people i know in woolies now question my loyalty i am surprised that every else isn't doing it loyalty begins in the home
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                                                • Danielle R 478487boy blunder
                                                  Absolutely. We have a different system of food purchase at home. I buy one week of the fortnight,the family I live with buys the other and my eldest buys " Hello Fresh". I am considering doing the same. He got a great deal, for $40 he gets 3 meal packs( equates to 6 dinners) easy to make great meals. I find now I bounce between Richies/IGA and Coles ( occasionally I go to NQR) as the quality of fresh food,especially meat/ meals far outweighs the little I save.
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                                                • boy blunderDanielle R 478487
                                                  We have 6 plus the od extras to feed daily, with different diet intakes,, our kitchen is like a galley in a submarine it never stops feeding people,would love to have your setup sounds so good
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                                                • Danielle R 478487boy blunder
                                                  Yours sounds quite like ours in a way. We are 5 adults,this can change to 10 on any given day. The eldest ( at 80) eat between 5.30-6pm. Then I clean up and start again. I usually cook for everyone. My eldest doesn't finish work til later and will either get me to cook his food so he can eat at 8pm or he will cook and eat before 9pm. My 18year old will eat anytime between 7pm and midnight.
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                                                • boy blunderDanielle R 478487
                                                  i do most of the cooking, tasting samples of everything i rarely sit for a meal never hungry
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                                              • Joe B 288252
                                                Peaceful civil disobedience can be a very effective form of protest in cases where there is political obstinace
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                                                • Liane H
                                                  The big black texta is mightier than them all ?!
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                                                  • Grommie
                                                    the pen is mightier than the sword. pen and is, is not one word, Keith.
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                                                    • Robert T 597718
                                                      You arethe sensible one Paula civil and kind
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                                                      • IdentifyAs
                                                        I'm getting tired of the fight for the truth. Some days death seems like a good alternative.
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                                                        • Pat C 618241
                                                          Never give up, stick with what you feel you know and who you can trust! The rest is rubbish!
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                                                        • Paula J 395266
                                                          Sometimes I achieve nothing but I can rest easy at night knowing that I tried. If I felt there was a wrong and didn't say something about it I wouldn't be able to rest.
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                                                        • IdentifyAsPat C 618241
                                                          I’m overwhelmed with too many issues. I do t have a life, tired of the battle
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                                                        • IdentifyAsPaula J 395266
                                                          And it doesn’t helped when friends/family are dismissive of the fight, there is no support
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                                                      • Mark 1644145
                                                        Stay informed, that is the key and check your sources at all times.
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                                                        • Julie K 348980
                                                          I like your style.
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                                                          • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                                                            'The pen is mightier than the sword is an expression (theory) indicating that written word is more effective than violence as a means of major social change or major political change. One, you can look at the history of USA and see that expression (theory) has never worked. Two, you can look at the history of any country on this planet and see that expression (theory) has never worked. Last, if you want major social change or major political change (in your lifetime) - YOU will need to operate on Machiavelli principles - unfortunately, every government on this planet operates on Machiavelli principles to stay in POWER.
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                                                            • Julie K 348980
                                                              A question from the other side of the world for you. There has been quite a bit of news coverage here with regard to changes your President and Musk have been making. Do the majority of people there realise how much Trump’s policies are affecting the rest of the world and America itself?
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                                                            • BLACK LIVES MATTERJulie K 348980
                                                              Do the overwhelming majority of Americans know the effects of Trump policies are having on democracy in the USA - YES (the USA has always only been a democracy in theory - a republic in actuality)! Do the overwhelming majority of Americans care about the rest of the world - NO!
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                                                            • Paula J 395266
                                                              I refuse to use gutter tactics not matter how the other side plays. I only have to worry about my conscience no-one else's.
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                                                            • Paula J 395266BLACK LIVES MATTER
                                                              Guess what, we already knew that. You arrived late for every war and dragged us into Vietnam. You only won against the British because the French helped out.
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                                                            • BLACK LIVES MATTERPaula J 395266
                                                              LOL!
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                                                            • BLACK LIVES MATTERPaula J 395266
                                                              LOL!
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                                                          • Cher
                                                            A way to be proactive. Good for you!
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                                                            • Cynthia 1521546
                                                              I'm all about expression! So do what you like as long as no one gets hurt.
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                                                              • Paul B 522937
                                                                I let sleeping dog lie
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                                                                • Izabelle 1457992
                                                                  I've done it but usually when I'm angry so I don't get responses! Haha
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                                                                  • Paula J 395266
                                                                    No, I make sure I'm not angry when I write and I also point out the good points, if there are any. I received very poor service during the Covid lockdown and all I wanted was an apology but what I got was a load of excuses. Then the store manager contacted me with even more excuses and offered me a free meal. I wrote back telling her I didn't want a free meal, I wanted them to admit they were wrong. I told them to keep their meal. My friends thought I was stupid to give up a free meal but I told the manager without an apology I would never set foot in there again, and I haven't. I have taken my custom elsewhere where I get a discount as a VIP.
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                                                                • Frank K 593543
                                                                  It's no good keeping quiet we should speak up when these matters occur.
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                                                                  • Sheree T
                                                                    I agree totally with what you have said Paula, your way is the best way and they pay far more attention to what you say then the protesters.
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                                                                    • Jania S
                                                                      there are extremes eg glue to road at other end complainers on social media both are a waste, Protest peacefully and disrupt sometimes like standing up against slaughter of unarmed humans eg Christians, Jews, Muslim atheist's in GAZA and Syria - sometime pen and paper DO NOT WORK, they are easy to ignore like re Gaza and Syria, sometimes we need to get out of our comfort zone and STAND publicly for what IS MORAL
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                                                                      • Elizabeth T 396096
                                                                        As long as people protest peacefully, I do not mind if they do it in public as this can help raise awareness for issues.
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                                                                        • Ek M
                                                                          THere's that old saying the pen is mightier and the sword!
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                                                                          • JANN R
                                                                            I am sick of seeing the protest in the streets that cause so much trouble and a lot of attacks on people that dont deserve it its so wrong and they should be jailed for it
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                                                                            • Kelly 1436617
                                                                              We as humans think of ourselves as intelligent. That is our first mistake and our last. Anything in between has been diabolicaly catastrophic
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                                                                              • Carolyn K 714554
                                                                                These people who glue them selves to the road to force the government should be charged and jailed. They even have expected the government to stop climate change. (The earth has been changing since it was formed). What they expect the government to do about this,
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                                                                                • Pat C 618241
                                                                                  Who knows, Carolyn it's a weird world!
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                                                                                • Paula J 395266
                                                                                  Any thinking person knows you can't change the weather. So I guess people who think they can aren't thinking.
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                                                                              • Danielle R 478487
                                                                                I have written letters on my behalf and also for others. Mainly to query bills/ fines. In this case providing documentation with clear and concise explanation is important. Many times I believe that so many issues can be resolved. Also many companys or legal pathways assume you will just pay because it is too difficult to respond in this manner. I always make cpys of everything I send,and always use registered mail. In doing this they have no recourse to say they have not received your query. I will also sign petitions that I feel warrant it. If there is something in my electorate I will contact my local member directly for discussion. And attend meetings at council. We recently had a local that tried to build onto public beach without permit. Essentially cordoning off a portion of beach for their person use. The locals banded together all wrote letters,emails sent photos and contacted the media. Council had to investigate once this was done and made him remove the building already in progress. I can't believe they weren't aware of what he was doing,or whether someone deliberately turned a blind eye. But public outcry and media attention made the difference.
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                                                                                • Paula J 395266
                                                                                  It's good feeling when you accomplish something.
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                                                                              • Gary P 1194496
                                                                                I have often heard it said that the pen is mightier than the sword, however, I would not take a pen to a sword fight. It's a matter of perspective I suppose.
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                                                                                • Roeli L
                                                                                  Now I get the message. I have emailed/texted a company telling them my Keurig coffee maker would not work, Sent me a brand new one. Found a piece of plastic wrap in a can of Beans, got a case of 12 sent to me. I took my 3 boys to eat at Ponderosa. Got home to find out I had only paid for 2 meals. Went back and asked for manager. He listened to me with my boys standing around listening. The following week he sent me 3 free meals for the four of us. I was a single Mom at the time. That was a lesson to my boys to be always honest and you will get rewarded .
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                                                                                  • Paula J 395266
                                                                                    Good for you.
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                                                                                • EILEEN W 310556
                                                                                  I am wondering what is the discussion? What do you want us to say?
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                                                                                  • lin r
                                                                                    good ?
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                                                                                • writerrochelle
                                                                                  You Go, Girl! I'm right there with you! I've even had companies send me a prepaid container to return so they could analyse my complaint! And, I have received coupons worth $7, rendering a new item free, or FREE coupons themselves! And, like you said very well, sometimes things get changed for the better. So, bottom line, if you have a complaint about a product, email the company and let them know. You'd be surprised how accommodating some companies can be! I even emailed Dollar Tree letting them know the "heat was not working" in the Oak Harbor store, and it was colder inside than outside! Heater got repaired! ;-D
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                                                                                  • Paula J 395266
                                                                                    One company I complained to, and I did say I love the product but was disappointed, sent me a large box with loads of their product. It saved me heaps of money not having to buy any of it for a couple of months.
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                                                                                  • writerrochellePaula J 395266
                                                                                    That one really did pay off! An honest company will go out of it's way to keep customers happy! ;-D
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                                                                                • Tupulua S
                                                                                  It's different, one voice cannot change anything or cannot be heard, even if you manage to be included in their contact list, you will not be able to express your point of view, yes you may have all the cakes and ice-creams, and Mingo with them, but with protest many voices speak louder. Actions together speak louder
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                                                                                  • Roeli L
                                                                                    The squeaky wheel gets the oil.
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                                                                                    • Claude H
                                                                                      If you have something meaningful to add great, but there are so many busybodies around who just like to annoy others
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                                                                                      • Renee 1556074
                                                                                        I would rather take a pen & paper & write down what I need to say. If I am face to face with someone & I am trying to express what I need them to know, the words don't flow out as easy. When writing, I can take my time & do it at my own pace
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                                                                                        • Darla T
                                                                                          I agree with your approach. When you have documentation of what you did and nothing happens, would you take further steps to make yourself heard such as going to social media outlets and saying that no one seems to be listening?
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                                                                                          • Jania S
                                                                                            I dont think anyone glues themselves to roads over minor faults in products. but you may not have seen those weirds against climate
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                                                                                        • Jamie 1501965
                                                                                          Sometimes correspondence does make a difference.
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                                                                                          • Christina C 466456
                                                                                            It sounds like you have a gift for knowing exactly what to say and who to say it too. It sounds like you're excellent at persuading as well as lots of people do not have that kind of luck getting through to people higher up.
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                                                                                            • Maria B 89860
                                                                                              ... all because you are a civilised person and use common sense and acknowledged that "the pen is mightier than the sword" or let's really use our imagination and acknowledge how some people like to butcher the spoken word and "sword" we can pretend is an abbreviation of "swear-word".
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                                                                                              • Anne 500471
                                                                                                No thsnkyou x
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                                                                                                • Tina 423889
                                                                                                  sounds good
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                                                                                                  • pam rae
                                                                                                    that's great..
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                                                                                                    • Judy 1514577
                                                                                                      yes write
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                                                                                                      • Victoria 1304258
                                                                                                        Yes, I also write out my feelings on issues.
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                                                                                                        • diana 1578758
                                                                                                          I like hand writing
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                                                                                                          • Teri 1282723
                                                                                                            I am also one who writes letters and sends emails. I always get a reply. The only ones I didn't get a reply from were the top government official's office, but those were mostly sent in the form of attaching my name to a list or letter submitted by an organization. I'm sure the people who go to protests are doing what they feel gets more press. And they are likely correct. I'm afraid of any violence that may erupt. Both methods have their plusses and minuses.
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                                                                                                            • Paula J 395266
                                                                                                              We have found "protesters" are rent-a-crowd and pop up at all the protests. Someone is paying them to protest.
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                                                                                                            • Teri 1282723Paula J 395266
                                                                                                              I know Proud Boys always seem to know where Trump is and they're always wanting to fight anyone against him.
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                                                                                                          • mike B 1066235
                                                                                                            Happy also for you but 99% do that and get nothing back . that is the way i see it MIKE
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                                                                                                            • Toni-maree 1653542
                                                                                                              Cool
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                                                                                                              • Val 1394045
                                                                                                                I am very happy for you.
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