26th August 2024 .Afghanistan women banned from speaking ,or singing in public. They must be covered from head to toe and not reveal their faces due to new Taliban laws. Always accompanied by a male while leaving the home. Australia Qld .. October 2024 another round of defeating the anti abortion laws down in state parliament. Well done ,can't believe it was even bought up for discussion? U.S.A 2024. Roe. VS Wade. The same argument still ensues with a lot of men in power with an opinion ? Still women have no choices about their own bodies. This was decided on by a bunch of men in suits. . I think that answers your question. Edited 20-Oct-24 23:53pm

I don't give a crap about the 'respect' of misogynist, insecure men. I'd take equal pay ( work in progress), the right to vote, have my own bank account, credit card, mortgage, to pursuit any career one is capable of doing ( women & men) -(all things that have come from the women's movement), any day. Women swear? And? So what? Men as a whole still do way less of the household tasks than their female partners, regardless of whether both partners work full time. Even then it's often viewed as 'helping', not as their responsibility as being a member of the household. Some men looking after their own children, expect praise for 'babysitting', again as if it's not simply a responsibility of being a parent & instead 'helping' their partner. The bar for men doing their fair share of household work & looking after their own kids is depressingly low. There are definitively men who do pull their weight, I think this has improved over the years . That may look different for different couples and each couple need to negotiate on a division that works for them & their circumstances. Not sure how gay marriages work on this score. It would be interesting to compare. The factor that still needs to be addressed is the way that areas of paid work are viewed & paid. Some areas of work dominated by women especially 'caring' related work are still deemed to be worth less than traditionally male dominated areas, despite the skills involved in the role.Edited 20-Oct-24 07:25am

"A lot of men now help with housework".... are you for real?? Men are useless, pathetic, good for nothing... see more

Freedom over there own life and decision making

Both were intended to love and support each other in every way. As a woman, I don't wan to let men off easily, as they have roles to fill in that's been ignored by too many for centuries. they still need to learn to treat all persons with the respect they too deserve, stand on good moral footing, obey god's laws over man's twisted ideals and be a full part in their own children's lives etc.... Women are not to be replacing them by overtaking their responsibilities, this makes them lazy, negligent and even more unworthy for another relationship- so they go INCEL. Women will also lose if we keep trying to shoulder every responsibility as if we are superwomen....it's foolish and self destructive, leaving many women bitter and uninviting. Hope we will seek and find greater harmony as pitting women against men or men again women is a precursor to losing our planet.

Yes! Men have a sharing role in the family these days. Some men are better than women in a caring role such as looking after kids, doing house work etc etc. which seems very fair! The role of Man becoming changed for better these modern days!

Hopefully the White House after Nov 5.

I just read a CBC report on my laptop just now where the India government is anti women. women can be raped legally after the age of 18, and no law to forbid it

Everyone in a home contributes to the food being eaten, clothes being worn, therefore everyone (that is able) should be contributing to the upkeep of the household. Just because one provides the household with the higher income doesn’t mean they’re providing. Providing is a joint effort for everyone. Whether that be making meals, groceries, cleaning, laundry, kids activities etc. team work makes the dream work.

I learnt cooking at school (no boys allowed), mothercraft (no boys), sewing (no boys) and then grew up to be my own handyman, I have a forklift licence, a truck licence and yet still have won prizes for my sewing. Forget what sex you are, anybody can do anything.

i have always run with a happy wife and a happy life, I do probably 70% of the cooking and cleaning since I have retired, and my wife and daughter do the rest i play an active role im my grandkids I get plenty of time to do the things I like to do [hobbies and such] life is good, its day by day and I love it, what have women gained I believe you will see that in 30 or 40 years

Personally, I am an old fashioned woman. I loved things the way they used to be. Women today wonder why men do not open doors up for them anymore, mine still does this for me as well as others when I am out, however, I believe they know I am still old fashioned.

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As for men (and women for that matter) if you both contribute towards the cost of where you live, ie, both work, then you should both be responsible for the upkeep. If only one works, and the other is house person, then the other one should contribute when they have time, and not make a song and dance about it. We have been married 44 years, and share the work equallyEdited 16-Oct-24 18:08pm

I didn't burn my bra or ask for equal rights as I was happy with my place in society. I wasn't seen as a second class citizen, just a weaker one. I enjoyed having the chair pulled out for me and the door opened but after leaving the workforce to raise my family I found I was viewed differently after women had become equal. I took my daughter in her pram on the train into Sydney but when I got there I found there were no lifts and as I struggled to get the pram up the stairs men rushed past with only another woman stopping to lend me a hand. When I rejoined the workforce I found the men refused to lend a hand with things that were too heavy or difficult for a women, they would say "you wanted equal rights". I look at younger women today and don't like what I see, they behave like men. They swear, get drunk, are generally noisy and are not one bit ladylike. I often wonder if that is part of the reason for the increased in DV. Women don't respect themselves so why should men?

I have male friends who would never think of carrying out chores such as cleaning the bathroom, vacuuming the carpet or, horror of horrors cookimg the evening meal. I've had several partners in my life, some helped, some didn't but I thank my luckiest stars that my partner now for over 30 years has helped whenever he could. At least I have the knowledge that if I do go to wherever first, he can keep a house running and successfully feed himself. Both of us have also worked our way through our careers to retire and live within our means now.

Division of labor is the most efficient way for any business with more than one person involved. The one with the appropriate skill or best at that aspect does that part of the job. So, a family should run the same way. But community or cultural expectations and personal learnings of these expectations cuts across what an outsider might see as the way to go. Attitudes of one person, learnt or developed clash with those of another. We are not a homogenized society. Not even looked at in small groups.

Women were always the boss. they just let we men think we were. Smart aren't they.

I always says that women are so proud ,be cause they are managing everything daily life .

Yes woman have gained and lost but I think for the majority of woman they have lost more than they have gained.

I Think we should all be treated Equally when it comes to Work, Trade, Profession, if a woman is doing exactly the same type of work, for the same number of hours then she should be paid exactly the same money and other benefits as the men. This is not the case when it comes to some sports, is it? In some men are required to play for much longer yet the women who also play the same sport play shorter times but expect to be paid the same as the men. Once the Public Service, Civil Service in some countries, men held all the positions as women were required to give up work as soon as the family started to arrive, she stayed at home and did every bit as important. often more so, work as the men in rearing the children. Couples should have been allowed to split the single income and pay less tax but the politicians then and still now even with many women being in that spoilt brat class, no blessings on any of them, would not allow that. Today men have almost completely disappeared from the Public Service. Women get promoted on the basis that they are women and not on their Experience or Knowledge. Male Teachers have almost totally disappeared from Public Schools. The entire system has become totally unbalanced. Bad language? This is something I really loathe. Any one can swear as and when they want to often swear words are alomost used as punctuation. There are a number of self-styled Commedians - male and female - who are unable to opent their mouths without some expletive pouring out, one in particular does this because he thinks people think he is being funny, we know this because every time he utters the F or C word he get a look on his face which tells the audience "Look at ME! Aren't I being a Naughty Boy?" No, mate, you are not. You are just being a foul-mouthed moronic lout.

Control and that is all you want

You can't have it both ways

We in the US have the opportunity to elect the first woman President of one of the most powerful and influential countries in the world. let's not let this chance slip away. Don't forget to vote! Edited 16-Oct-24 14:25pm

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Yep I am my husband's best asset I have doubled in size although he's now saying tripled in size which I am not happy about. We have come a long way since those older days where we were kept at home to look after house, children and pets. Made our husband's dinners when they got home from a hard days work and they were the providers. We can now earn just as much as they can and some times more. Have our children suffered because of this? We now rely on strangers at day care centres to raise them, teach them right from wrong so it isn't just numbers and letters. Is this too much to ask? For me I think it's a huge yes. Parents hardly see their children and they certainly aren't at home making sure their children aren't terrorising the neighbour hoods they live in. In bed on school nights, getting enough sleep, eating properly and staying off social media just to name a few. We are failing the generations and it is only going to get worse sadly. Not good times like when I grew up.

Respect is most important. If both work full time, sharing of home duties is most important.

The first thing I thought of was ... what women have gained ... is WEIGHT!

I realize that I don't have much room to comment about women's gains in our social situation but this is what I've done to help out. Fought as a union leader for equality in every aspect of life Achieved political awareness Won equal pay at our workplace Fought sexism, racism, and unequal opportunity Helped women find their voice in the work place and many other victories and losses. These were not easy fights. Lots of men over the years fought me instead of management. While it cost me a lot of heartache, stress, and friends I also gained 'real' friends and respect from both sides of the labour/management equasion.

I actually had a discussion with a man of 45 recently and he got hot headed about feminists. To him they should be in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant. Working and getting the same pay was to him ridiculous and I quote "women get pregnant and have to take time off". Newsflash, in Australia men get time off also to "bond" with the child. Women got it off due to the stress on their bodies from being pregnant, the actual birth and caring for the child for a few months after whilst the hormones get under control again after all the trauma but for some reason now men also get time off. I tried to explain equal rights has nothing to do with strength but with our brains and doing jobs in which we have the same ability as a man. He then brings up being a soldier and he didn't see any women out there and that women would hide behind him. He should look again. Plenty of women are in the forces flying planes, in intelligence, on the front lines etc. His viewpoint was archaic to say the least. Having said that, I agree the younger women have lost the respect of men in many cases. Swearing does not make you clever and yes you have the right to dress as you wish but frankly flaunting everything is not classy. I like the car door opened for me or any door, I like to be protected by my male family members, I expect respect as I have earned it. I do not think women should have entrance in to the public bar for instance. Men should have their own places just as women should. Why we have to be in their faces 24/7 is beyond me. Yes men help with housework and child care but then women also work 5 days a week minimum these days. It should be shared. I still think women are denigrated and thought of as lesser beings than men. Men still have sexist comments and viewpoints. I am not in competition with men but this does not mean I am of a lower status either.

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I think respect is the most important thing and team work

It should be 50\50

This is a really hard one. I think we have far more autonomy,more support,more options as far as education,work and lifestyle is concerned. But we are all individuals male or female,young or old. I think the focus should be respect and opportunity for all. Personal on a worldwide scale I would like to see the elimination of child labour and prostitution, marriage of children( some girls as young as 11) and female mutilation of gentials. So cruel and unnecessary.

I can do a lot of things but some things should be left to the man!

Equality will never be 100%. Despite all these improvements, domestic violence is still happening.

I don't like it when people of any gender swear all the time. It should be reserved for when you stub your toe, or another driver cuts you off and almost causes you to get into accident. LOL.

Most women are louder than me. As far as the cursing goes...we are equals.Edited 16-Oct-24 10:45am

Women have gained alot...thanks to women like the late great RBG etc but we are still far far behind the gender race. See Women in Afghanistan atm under terrorist regime :( Remember - always ..."Women Don't owe you SH*T!"

Ruth 1496373. You said about swearing..my ex SIL could beat anyone for the foulest mouth. Didn’t care where she was or who was near she just let it fly. My aunt said once was my brother a man or mouse and time to put a stop to it

Agree with Lance 😁

i still like women they make the world go round one exception LUCY LELBY

women will have made gains when all women have made gains. try Afghanistan

My wife, love and partner gave up work to be at home when the kids got out of school!!!!!

Women used to stay at home & care for kids while man was breadwinner. Now they work, kids in childcare from babies. Women had to give up work when they married. Whole different world!Edited 16-Oct-24 09:43am

Weight, not many slim ladies left on the planet

with all the deadbeat dads nowadays, women had to get into the workforce. Men don't support families now as in "the old days". Women are more independent and don't want to be seen as property.

I hate to say my grandfather did housework, help my grandmother out in 1900's. They good and bad each time. Women's always work.

some women are becoming males

REALLY AND FRUMP SAID WOMEN I JUST GRAB THEM BY THE PUSSY... AND MAGAT WOMEN VOTE FOR HIM

Things have changed, many years ago women were at home with the children and looking after the house and men went to work, that's just the way it was. Now we are more united and we help one another.

I am absolutely amazed at the loving relationship my Grandson has with his baby daughter. Right from her birth he has done everything except breast feed. He even has her one day a week entirely to himself when his wife works. He takes her to childcare and picks her up having insisted on finding one close to his work. His love and care of her is a joy to watch. My husband loved his daughters but the occasional feed and taking them for a stroll in the pram was his limit, even though I worked full time, did all the cooking and cleaning too.

I truly believe that women in general have less rights now than they did when I was growing up in the 1960's. My mother was able to stay home and raise my brother and I and not forced to leave her home AND her children to afford the mortgage money for the house my father and her purchased together. They had 2 solid years working together at a factory before my mother fell pregnant with me and retired from the paid workforce and she was able to rest during her pregnancy and prepare for my arrival enjoying that time. Even on one income back then we had meat every night for dinner because back then you could afford it, not now! My mother taught me SO many valuable lessons of how to cook well but cheaply, how to sew and how to run a home. I, however, did not think that these lessons were valuable until I got older and unfortunately I bought into the feminist hype of the working woman being able to "do it all"! Absolute BS BTW as all I did was get on a treadmill for 25 years without stopping trying to be everything that my changing society told me was my right but ultimately missing out on some of the most important things in my 5 children's lives. I sent them along to Daycare because I was told it was as good as me caring for them and they'd be well socialised, but they cried when I left them and I abandoned them to a place of noise and no love. They will say to me today "Mum, do you remember when" or "do you remember so and so" and I have no recollection of those events or people because my headspace and I were somewhere else. I wish that I had realised the feminist lies back then and stayed at home raising my children myself and teaching them things of value. You can NEVER reclaim those moments you lost and I regret it deeply. I believe that we are less "women" now than we were before we had the right to choose whether or not to bring to term the children we carried in our wombs and we started trying so dang hard to be as good as men when we already were but in a different way! We got robbed of a lot of simple pleasures of watching our children play or having kids come home with our kids and ask to play in the backyard because there was always someone home back then. These days women, mothers especially, have to coordinate schedules and are often absent from the home and need to organise formal play dates with the other equally busy and exhausted parents of their child's friends. If THIS is what was meant by "progress" for women then we collectively were sold a lemon! Thanks for reading.

I dont think we were second class citzens we just where not regarded the same as men to do the same work as them but its all different now where a women can do anything she wants to as well as getting a degree in it

Men and women gain when women gain. It's a collaborative environment of love trust harmonious synchronising It's a brave new world go Kamala you win that election girl friend. Edited 16-Oct-24 06:16am

IF anyone really believes women were 2nd class citizens then you have completely swallowed the USA BS propoganda. Women were never 2nd class, they had freedom they dont have today, TODAY majority of women have to WORK 4 THE MAN n PAY TAXES, They have to run a house, and work a job. They swallow the Feminist BS and now they are 2nd class citizens and owned and controlled by the MAN. well done. MEN ALWAY contributed... whoops how much do you really know first hand and how much is BS from MSM you have swallowed. Men always helped how many fathers today can take there children out, spend time with them VERY FEW both mother and father work for the man, some work 2 jobs to make ends met, they pay others to raise their children and this is progress/coming a long way. I DOUBT IT - I am glad many did not swallow the BS

We are all equal but there will always be some who think they are better than the rest of us, but they don't get it we all have to work together to make the world a better place for all of us.

Unfortunately, the first woman to live on this earth ruined it for us all! In Genesis chapter 3:1-15, we read what happened in the Garden of Eden. Verse 16 reads, "To the woman he said: "I will greatly increase the pain of your pregnancy; in pain you will give birth to children, and your longing will be for your husband, and he will dominate you." Read through Genesis chapter 3 to see what we inherited through our sinful parents! ;-D

I love cutting up the wood and my wife loves cooking and so where is the problem. Each to their own.

Let’s not forget our role as mothers as the most important, and our son’s have learnt to love unconditionally and be supportive and proactive father’s. Swearing, only word’s of expression, don’t do if you don’t like it, and choose not to be around those that do if offends you. Women have come along way, so has society as a whole towards equality for all…

Those men are ego maniac men who have no respect for women, and their ego will eat them alive. Yes the Bible teaches us , that woman were created by God from the rib of man, therefore Companionship equal rights, equal shares, and are bound by love

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I have always said, for anyone who cared to listen, that the dirty dishes and clothes are not fussed who washes them and the raw ingredients doesn't mind who turns it into a delicious meal!

This is a too sensitive subject for me - has too many blatantly racial overtones - I cannot be objective - NO COMMENT!Edited 16-Oct-24 12:40pm

Women and blacks get everything they want whether they need it or not! I am sick & tired of hearing re them being denied their choice in cold-blooded murder of the unborn aka abortion! They made that choice when they chose not to practice safe sex. They wanted a kid then so why do they want to kill that kid now? They can always have it and then it will be adopted. In fact, this world is so overcrowded, rather than having a kid, why not adopt one like the rest of us do for pets? I am a 75 yrs young senior US Veteran who is both retired and disabled. I asked for help and figured since I donated so much for so long that I was entitled to help now that I needed it. I was and still am a lonely depressed despairing shut-in hated by family and ignored by my so-called friends! However, because I no longer need Meals on Wheels nor Mom's Meals, the local and county and state depts on the aging all refuse to visit me! My last real visit was June of 2010 when my Mama died and HER friends and HDER relations not mine came out of a sense of duty not because they cared re my loneliness and depression! Some folks like most women do not know when they are well off!

Females are now working in areas where before it was dominated by males. That is progress. However, men can cook/bake too because a lot of females either don’t know how or just do not want to do it. It is whatever works in the family and the money is shared.

I think you win some and you lose some...just as in other areas...it is always a trade off...

This is so true

THAT IS SO TRUE

Equal pay is still lacking.