Discussion of the Day
In the future, can you see a woman as the Pope?
Lyn 7855003-May-25
Following the death of the late Pope Francis and after watching Conclave, I thought to myself what would a woman offer as a Pope?
I am not Catholic but do know that they do not ordain women as priests.
Maybe in the future this will happen.
There was a Pope in the 13th century named Pope Joan, although this is a matter of dispute.
I feel that perhaps a woman would have more empathy, although men do have this as well.
Just putting it out there.
Comments
  • PT
    Church, religious and politics are very fertile grounds for wealth and control, that’s thousands of years in history. The Catholic Church organisations are one of the wealthiest in the world. They certainly have a lot of believers/ followers/ donors. Why those in power would like to open up the control to others? Especially when the infrastructure discourages women to be part of it from the grassroots level.
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    • Danielle R 478487
      No,I can't see the church being that progressive.
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      • Mary G 409440
        Cannot imagine that happening
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        • Missy Wyld
          hmmm not that I remotely gaff, but men rule this world, and rule all banks, media, big pharma, medical services and govts, and religious organisations, so I do not think anytime soon is a female going to get 'elected' as pope.
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          • melissa 1633464
            I think it would be a really big switch considering the nature of the church overall, but it would definitely be a more modern way of thinking.
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            • Mickook
              Why not?
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              • Rosie 563501
                NO
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                • Pamela B 862973
                  I am not if this faith so never thought about it.
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                  • Margaret 1633685
                    I do not pull back from any argument re religion, I cannot believe that so-called academics Who read the bible, which was written years after "Jesus' death by many other people, who were not alive at the time of this JESUS death. I have been to Rome and seen the magnificent buildings ,. As there was not any seating anywhere, I rested my BUTT on a corner of the shop selling religious man-made objects, A PRIEST came along an outside passage and told me to remove myself as I was desecrating Christ.. Need I say more, by the way, I was 75 and had a walker, and stick simply I had had a knee operation 3 months before Do I sound Anti Christ. Please do as you wish but the tie will always turn. :Do unto others as you would wish to be done by"
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                    • Colleen M 510798
                      I guess, but it would seem weird.
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                      • Daniel 1664179
                        Yes why not
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                        • Margaret 1633685
                          Where is this invisible entity? We see these sick children suffering. I have had cancer therefore I do understand the treatment just to keep them alive until we can do more research to cure these cancers. I do not believe in a mythical being unless they are Greek and we can see the statues and work that they have undertaken, but there is nothing concrete to say that there is a GOD:: and why should we worship a person who is no longer alive? I believe that "Christ said do not worship idols" and what we see in all of the So-called Christian Churches effigies of this CHRIST and we celebrate his ascension to the cross and there is nothing written to say that he carried the cross to his death. My motto is one of Rudyard Kipling's,( Do unto others as you would wish to be done, )this is a good thing to live by, I have lived by this all of my life and I have met all from every slice of society and I do not distinguish from colour or creed. One small fun item. I was in my studio potting for an order, when I heard a knock on the door, I answered thinking it was my client. But it was not, it was two people who were religious folk. I told them that I was rather busy filling an order. As they left I was asked "Should we shut the door: I replied yes thinking that they would just pull the door as they had found it. But no they pulled the bolt across and locked me in. Luckily for me, I had a second door that led to our pool area and I could get out and I did have a landline I did go to church but I could not reconcile what I was preached in the bible and the treatment of others. I was denied access to our Christmas party because I had a missing stamp in my book, luckily for me someone came to my aid, but I have not forgotten this, I was maybe 6/7 and
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                          • Janet 1621979
                            I can't really see it myself. Although the Anglican church now has women as ministers ........ so who knows..................
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                            • Liane H
                              No need . The men on the earth can still be the ordained Popes to do the work of their God .. for the people. As God IS a Woman !
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                              • Danielle R 478487
                                The hand that rocks the cradle...
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                            • Karen S 841350
                              Hopefully one day it will happen, but proably not soon, religions are very slow to adopt changes in society ....If they do at all
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                              • Jania S
                                NO, we have enough stupid as it is right now eg trump
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                                • Pato Lo Duck
                                  Trump wants to be pope now, as well as king of America. He posted a digitally altered photo of himself wearing all the papal finery on his social media page last night. He sure is one very sick puppy..
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                                • Danielle R 478487Pato Lo Duck
                                  That is insane. Funny,but in a narcissistic, meglomanical way. The whole world is laughing at him,how can anyone take this guy seriously.
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                                • Pato Lo DuckDanielle R 478487
                                  If you live in the USA then you have to, or risk being disappeared to Venezuela. I don’t think it is funny at all, I think it is bloody crass, coming just a few days after the Pope’s death and on top of his undignified behaviour at the funeral. And I’m an atheist..
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                                • Danielle R 478487Pato Lo Duck
                                  True,I didn't mean to be disrespectful. It's just indicative of his ridiculous behaviour.
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                                • Pato Lo DuckDanielle R 478487
                                  Seriously this guy should be in a padded cell, with a sign on the door, ‘incurable, never to be released’….
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                              • Maggie
                                no, definitely no
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                                • Lee b 979050
                                  No
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                                  • Lyn 78550
                                    Thank you all for your contribution today it was much appreciated. So many people with different opinions. We are so lucky to live in a democractic country where everyone of us is entitled to an opinion. Once again thank you, take care and enjoy the rest of your weekend. x
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                                    • Prabitha 1669776
                                      would love to see such change happening, also there should be gender equality.
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                                      • Kim H 962104
                                        it would be a great thing to happen but i cant see it happening in my lifetime
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                                        • Janet 1621979
                                          I agree.
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                                      • Dimitri T 100433
                                        possible
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                                        • Wendy B 361582
                                          Popess?
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                                          • Paula J 395266
                                            The day we see a female Pope is the day they allow priests to marry.
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                                            • Mickook
                                              Once upon a time in the 9th century priests did get married. This was stopped to make sure the wealth stayed in the church. 🙄
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                                            • Paula J 395266Mickook
                                              Yes, I know. Pope Alexander V1 or Rodrigo Borga had many children by a number of mistresses, but I'm not sure whether he was married. The Apostle Peter obviously had a wife because the bible mentions his mother-in-law.
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                                          • Sylvia 1658380
                                            Never know if woman can be ordained as a Pope or not. Look at in the early centuries, women are not allow to go out to work. Now, you see women work equally as men. In fact, it is quite common to see men changing diaper and cooking in today society. In all of my family member husband are the one cooking doing the cooking.
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                                            • Paula J 395266
                                              Women worked in bible times and Jesus had women disciples but not Apostles.
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                                            • Sylvia 1658380Paula J 395266
                                              And that is exactly what I am referring to. In the older time, women never go out to work but stay home as a child rearing person. In the 21st century, women are in workforce as CEO, Manager, doctor, lawyer and what not? Time change, season change and very soon we will be heading into the 'Brave New World'. Can you imagine how scientist are testing to see if Mar is a good place for human to survive there?
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                                            • Paula J 395266Sylvia 1658380
                                              There are no trees, flowers or grass. Would you want to?
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                                            • Sylvia 1658380Paula J 395266
                                              Nothin is new to me. There can be artificial trees, flowers or grass even implanted in Mars. Although I don’t like that but again, we are heading into ‘Brave Nee World’. There is a book called: ‘Brave New World’ by Huxley, Aldous. Read it if u have time. That is exactly what I am referring to??
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                                            • Paula J 395266Sylvia 1658380
                                              I am expecting a new world, as the prayer goes "let they Kingdom come", Jehovah's kingdom making a new world here on earth. It will be a paradise with trees, grass, flowers, fruit and animals. What more could a person possibly ask for.
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                                            • Sylvia 1658380Paula J 395266
                                              Yes, "Let thy Kingdom come", but the Lord prayer goes further after Kingdom come...'Thou will be done, on earth as it is in heaven...' Please notes the later part of the Lord Prayer... 'thou will be done on earth as it is in 'Heaven'. The Lord Prayer did not say 'thou will be done on earth as it is man's wishes. That is the difference. I got my education from a Chrisitan academy school and know not 100% what was taught in the bible and especially where we have to learn and memorize bible verse in Sunday school. Yes, God created everything for us, but there is a limit. Just like drinking alcohol. Some people argue that Jesus turn water into wine, that is true, but Jesus did not serve those people with wine that they get intoxicated and hurt other people. Everything has a limit. Definitely a new world is not what I would expect. Since summer is here, my condo management were asking residents if having an artificial flower on the BBQ terrace would be consent. No, I don't! I want natural beauty and natural flower where smelt
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                                            • Sylvia 1658380Sylvia 1658380
                                              where flower scent can be feel and enjoy the beauty of God's creation.
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                                          • Debra D 624780
                                            No I cannot see this ever happening
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                                            • Noreen 1641671
                                              I'm sure there will never be a female pope as it is a male run institute
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                                              • Ann 1498966
                                                Only if it was a transgendered person who managed to hide that they were born female.
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                                                • Jacqueline R 353303
                                                  Can't see that happening.
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                                                  • otten m
                                                    No.
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                                                    • Kaylene 1668939
                                                      no
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                                                      • Paul W 383502
                                                        No, Pope means Papa.
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                                                        • Jill C 324214
                                                          Unlikely
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                                                          • Carolyn K 714554
                                                            Yes, but don't hold your breath.
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                                                            • Beverley 1411982
                                                              I agree ..it will not happen in my lifetime.. I respect the churches and people's different views and beliefs...
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                                                              • Allen B 175494
                                                                Not in my lifetime.
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                                                                • Mariaj
                                                                  I can't see anyone let that happen :-(
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                                                                  • APB
                                                                    mmm...more empathy...like Margaret Thatcher?....she was a caring soul....
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                                                                    • Paul C 392065
                                                                      No and Pope Joan was a man, pronounced as "yoharn"
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                                                                      • Imperia S
                                                                        No WAY
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                                                                        • Pat C 618241
                                                                          If the Americans can't accept a woman for President then far less hope of the Italians taking a woman to be the earthly head of the Roman Catholic faith. Give it a few more generations!
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                                                                          • Ann 1498966
                                                                            It's not that we can't accept a female president, but rather the correct female candidate has not been chosen in the primaries. There are women that my husband and I would vote for but not Clinton or Harris.
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                                                                        • Joanna 1668796
                                                                          No! the possibility of a black pope is greater than the possibility of a female pope. It's a nice idea but the Vatican is a male dominated arena.
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                                                                          • debra j 18701
                                                                            Yes
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                                                                            • Allen M 1199636
                                                                              Yes
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                                                                              • John 1667421
                                                                                About time we change with the times put young woman or male too the pope
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                                                                                • Ellen P 667007
                                                                                  I'm not Catholic, but the Bible says women should not preach or become a minister. Too many Catholics seem to worship a pope like he is God. Why tell your sins to a priest (he's just a man!) instead of Jesus? There is no need for a "middle man". God hears your prayers through Jesus. No one can take away your sins except Jesus Christ if you accept Him into your heart as your Personal Savior. Read the King James Bible. God bless everyone.
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                                                                                  • Rose S 88496
                                                                                    Ha ha ha who are you trying to kid
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                                                                                    • Vidya 1577202
                                                                                      I think catholic people like to see
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                                                                                      • Arthur
                                                                                        To become Pope, a man must be a baptised male Catholic, at least 35 years old, a priest for at least five years, and have a doctorate in theology or equivalent. In practice, most Popes have been cardinals (members of the College of Cardinals) elected by their fellow cardinals during a conclave. Saying that we saw Pope Francis' liberal approach to gays in particular. At my age, I've seen everything, so nothing is impossible.
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                                                                                        • Melissa 1411101
                                                                                          Nope
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                                                                                          • Jeanette H 503751
                                                                                            Not the way things are at the moment
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                                                                                            • Pam G 449028
                                                                                              Not in my lifetime
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                                                                                              • Jennifer 1540583
                                                                                                No the Catholic Church is too traditional.
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                                                                                                • Harry 1361654
                                                                                                  Why not?? Possibly a mixed-race transgender ex-nun, former prostitute who can understand all aspects of humanity.
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                                                                                                  • Carol R 766556
                                                                                                    Would not surprise me! However, probably not in my lifetime!
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                                                                                                  • Harry 1361654Carol R 766556
                                                                                                    Sadly, mine either. Might shake up the church.
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                                                                                                • Roeli L
                                                                                                  No need for a Pope, just look to Jesus for all that you need in this life.
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                                                                                                  • Michael B 384408
                                                                                                    No
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                                                                                                    • Carolyn H 319412
                                                                                                      I am not sure if they would accept a female as Pope. Maybe the rule may change in the not too distant future.
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                                                                                                      • Greg B 520364
                                                                                                        Maybe in my Great, Great Grand children day. But that would be the earliest.
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                                                                                                        • Wendy Q
                                                                                                          Maybe one day well into the future.
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                                                                                                          • Aana 1669973
                                                                                                            No
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                                                                                                            • Brian H 190264
                                                                                                              Faith is real, belief is real. They are quasi human attributes but is religion and the god believed in any more real than Odin or Zeus?
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                                                                                                              • Ellen P 667007
                                                                                                                Read your Bible. Find a Christian Bible study for your answers. There is only ONE God, and only one way to heaven, and that is accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord & Savior.
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                                                                                                              • Brian H 190264Ellen P 667007
                                                                                                                i read the bible in my Christian upbringing and have diferent beliefs now. With all due respect to you, my questions are all science based
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                                                                                                              • Ellen P 667007Brian H 190264
                                                                                                                Science didn't die so that you may have eternal life. Jesus Christ did.
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                                                                                                              • Brian H 190264Ellen P 667007
                                                                                                                Eternal life? Nah, doesn't exist except as a crutch for man not being prepared to accept his own mortality. If it does, I wonder what all the brainless Pharaohs think of it?
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                                                                                                            • Jackie 1502820
                                                                                                              Yes
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                                                                                                              • Wayne Wilson
                                                                                                                No.
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                                                                                                                • Smiley
                                                                                                                  I am sure that would open a HUGE can of worms... It would be fun to be a fly on the wall. I doubt that'll ever happen though. It would mean they have to be open minded and take those blinkers off.
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                                                                                                                  • Linda C
                                                                                                                    That glass ceiling is unbreakable.
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                                                                                                                    • Dana C 383291
                                                                                                                      This is just another Boys club they will never let a woman get a foot in the door.
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                                                                                                                      • Pam 431550
                                                                                                                        Not at all
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                                                                                                                        • Lynne 1556332
                                                                                                                          no a woman can not be a pope
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                                                                                                                          • Sonya F 68771
                                                                                                                            No its a mans world
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                                                                                                                            • Mary 97420
                                                                                                                              No but then I don't really care much about it
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                                                                                                                              • Sylvia Y
                                                                                                                                Cant seeing it happening as they are still in the dark ages, do agree that it should be someone younger like politicians they should be under 60 years of age
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                                                                                                                                • Judy 1514577
                                                                                                                                  no unfortunately
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                                                                                                                                  • Paul J 94868
                                                                                                                                    No...
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                                                                                                                                    • ROBERT K 1065766
                                                                                                                                      Never, No, not going to happen., case closed.
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                                                                                                                                      • Daniel T 626103
                                                                                                                                        Not sure, but it might be cool to see an African pope.
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                                                                                                                                        • Mary 97420
                                                                                                                                          I would as well after all we are many and we are able to do the job
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                                                                                                                                      • Jenny 1669756
                                                                                                                                        I do not see a woman as the Pope in the foreseeable future
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                                                                                                                                        • Carolina Z
                                                                                                                                          Very improbable
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                                                                                                                                          • Lachelle B
                                                                                                                                            I would prefer one who isn't about to expire soon.
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                                                                                                                                            • TERESA A 29757
                                                                                                                                              Not at all.
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                                                                                                                                              • Teri 1282723
                                                                                                                                                I sincerely doubt it.
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                                                                                                                                                • Kat 493553
                                                                                                                                                  I don’t think women can be, can they?
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                                                                                                                                                  • Mopos
                                                                                                                                                    I don't think so......not very Christian is it? the "church": so hypocritical in many ways.
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                                                                                                                                                    • IdentifyAs
                                                                                                                                                      No. Wrecks the tradition, I wouldn't support it
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                                                                                                                                                      • Lorne M
                                                                                                                                                        Probably not under the current rules of eligibility...but it should be. Wouldn't it put Trump into a speed wobble if the next Pope, once in office, decides to transgender himself...
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                                                                                                                                                        • catherine 1489090
                                                                                                                                                          no
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                                                                                                                                                          • Rob G 106430
                                                                                                                                                            Why not. She can rewrite the bible and blame Adam for the apple event.
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                                                                                                                                                            • rob m 395307
                                                                                                                                                              who cares?
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                                                                                                                                                              • Vivian M 867575
                                                                                                                                                                Rather a woman than Trump any day!
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                                                                                                                                                                • Steffani 1380000
                                                                                                                                                                  No, not really
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                                                                                                                                                                  • allin
                                                                                                                                                                    I don't care,,,
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Priscilla R 316016
                                                                                                                                                                      As was said in the movie "If there is certainty, there's no need for the church" and a woman would bring certainty wouldn't she?
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Val B 69099
                                                                                                                                                                        not in my lifetime
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Matt Black.
                                                                                                                                                                          God gave women small feet so that they can stand close to the sink, the stove and the washing machine. They should stay there.
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Von
                                                                                                                                                                            🤣
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Mopos
                                                                                                                                                                            On ya Ron....😂
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Lachelle B
                                                                                                                                                                            Lol reminds me of my son when he was about 12. I was in the garage and he came in and said "What are you doing in here mum? Shouldn't you be in the kitchen?".
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Cher
                                                                                                                                                                          One has to ask oneself if it is ruled by fear or love? I think it is fear. Therefore no change.
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Janet H 854956
                                                                                                                                                                            In these times perhaps a woman could ‘identify’ as the Pope. Something to think about….
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Gaza
                                                                                                                                                                              No, the Catholic church won't let females into the priesthood clan.
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Jennifer H 722364
                                                                                                                                                                                discrimination
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Timtam
                                                                                                                                                                              It won't happen because old men who control the church will not allow it. It has nothing to do with ability or merit, it's simply the same old man based power structure.
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Bugalugs
                                                                                                                                                                                Probably not, because all those old men in their expensive drag, they seem to wear some different coloured dress every time they appear, would never want to be out-done by some great female who might, and this is just possible, decide that it was time the Roman Catholic Church followed the instructions Jesus, a great teacher but not divine, to Give up everything that is yours, your House, your Wealth and follow me. and she might just strip, what is reputed to be The Richest Organisation the World has ever seen, of its immense wealth and actually do something useful with it. That, of course, will never happen because, like all Organised Religions, it has long-since traded in the original god for a new one whose name is GREED. It never has enough and only ever wants more and more and then some more. No, I am not some Protestant, Catholic-hating bigot. I gave all that nonsense up decades ago.
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Laura W 363255
                                                                                                                                                                                  Can’t see that happening
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Von
                                                                                                                                                                                    Somehow...I think you already know my view on religion.. Good topic Lyn..😂
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Mopos
                                                                                                                                                                                      Agreed! :)
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