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Food that never spoils
08-May-22
To prepare for future disasters, do you think which kinds of food never spoil, and we can start stocking them now?
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  • Who the fuk lives on honey?
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    • Dried goods like peas, beans etc.
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      • Honey never spoils
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        • sugar
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          • MuckDonalds...sorry I thought I might just drop that on the doorstep and run away...I hope no-one saw me!
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            • Growing your own veg - that won't spoil and tinned foods won't spoil. Dried goods like pasta, rice & lentils will keep also. Honey will keep for 1000's of years.
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              • All food will spoil eventually
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                • Honey, never has a use by date.
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                  • Iodine salt because everything needs salt can food preferably not dented I do stock up on pasta and rice but not as much as I used to as wheeviles like that stuff as I once found out but if nuclear bombs hit we won't need anything but my grandkids could be very tasty and i guess water
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                    • Weeviles, they are like very offensive weevils maybe...??
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                  • Canned food, salt, sugar, rice and pasta
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                    • Salt and sugar never spoil! Also, McDonald's lasts forever. Probably because it has so much salt and sugar!
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                      • What you need is a big cellar with a lot of canned food in it. Canned food never goes off. It doesn't if the food is canned properly in the first place. No air can get in. It is not the food that does not spoil, it is the container that it is put in that saves the food.
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                        • There are not very many of them. Vegemite and honey come to mind but nothing else. There has to be more than this.
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                          • What kind of disaster are you talking about? If it is a nuclear one, you can forget about it. If you are likely to survive you may have to live in a bunker for years depending where you are at the time of the blast. Besides, food today will not last more than six months, maybe a year if you are lucky. Then there is water. Can you keep water for so long? With all the rubbish in the water today I doubt it. All we can hope for is a quick death as there will be not much hope for any survivors.
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                            • gulp...true re hoping for a quick death- and ideally painless.
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                          • Grains and beans etc are a good start, tinned or dehydrated vegetables, store the grain and beans in vermin proof containers in their original packing.
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                            • I don't like holding any food too long, someone told me to buy rice and pasta cause they last longer, but has anyone ever opened a canister of rice after it's been left on the shelf, no thanks the smell turns me off
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                              • I don't think many people are prepared for even small disasters like breaks in our food lines, a lot of which come from overseas. Rice, barley, wheat, dried vegetables like peas, beans all store for quite some time. Apparently sealed containers of honey have been found still edible in some of the pharohs tombs. Most modern households don't have a large enough storage capacity in their homes to store for a full year, let alone any longer.
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                                • There are a few companies that specialises in dry goods that you can keep for some years. What do you think the army use to eat on long journeys away
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                                  • Maple syrup will last around 2000 years apparently if it's kept sealed! Hardly a staple though.
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                                    • Rice and pasta. Canned veges and fruit and soups keep well but not indefinitely - they can rust.
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                                      • dried legumes and grains
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                                        • Greens
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                                          • If you don’t have greed you will get scurvy
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                                            • Honey never goes off
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                                              • Some responses say can food. Very dangerous as the insides of can will rust. Better to have glass containers and you can see if still ok. Definitely not any soda drinks ( no sugar etc) as the drink breaks down to yuk. Any dry food would be ok. Rice sugar herbs salt pepper but would keep any perishable things. Better to put aside but replace when used and kept up to date
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                                                • In Australia some canned goods that arrived here with the first fleet over 200 years ago were uncovered..we are talking low tech manufacture with poor hygiene control...and the contents were found to be still fine....
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                                              • I forgot, salt and pepper and probley some dried herbs
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                                                • Have never thought about it, my cupboards are well stocked anyway, when an item is used up it is replaced in my next weekly grocery shopping.
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                                                  • Rice , honey, sugar,
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                                                    • I try to have enough food for 2 weeks on hand at all times...
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                                                      • yes rice will keep well if you dont cook it.
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                                                        • Eventually everything's spoils even Vegemite my son moved into a transit share house n we found a bottle Vegemite 5years out of date but it was yuk ...
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                                                          • Rice, beans, can goods, pasta,
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                                                            • There's preparing for the future and not living your life. Get a grip people... Most people in western society have enough food in their larder, garden,fridge and freezer to last a week. Anything more than that needed and you have a serious problem.There are so many things to worry about and no-one can definately predict a disaster. Take care of the problems you can do something about. Really, I give up.
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                                                              • Agree! This person is senseless!
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                                                            • Some canned foods. Unfortunately nasty little "Visitors" like Weevils love to come and stay in many foods like Pasta, Rice, Flours, dried Potatoes etc. so they are not safe from spoiling, I suppose, other than deep freezing, there is no way to protect these basic foods. Of course treating with chemicals, radiation or other possible nasties is possible but what will be the long-term affect on them and on us once we eat them? I don't know so maybe someone who knows about these things can tell us, but does Vacuum Sealing give long-lasting protection?
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                                                              • tinned no longer good as new style tinning rusts Only things I can think of, rice,[most dried foods, long as frozen for a time to kill any weevil eggs] honey and marmite/vegemite [all kept in airtight containers] plenty of salt in the marmite so no need for salt
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                                                                • Tinned good. Some long life milk.
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                                                                  • honey
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                                                                    • We have rice and a few cans but if we get flooded in it is only for a few days and if any other disaster happens then I honestly do not want to be around to see the aftermath.
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                                                                      • Food in cans.
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                                                                        • I think the food would spoil regardless before you get a chance to use it
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                                                                          • Food doesn’t last long enough around here to spoil…..lol
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                                                                            • Same here lol
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                                                                          • Canned and anything you prepare for long term use
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                                                                            • They don't last forever.
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                                                                          • Chocolate
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                                                                            • That goes off too.
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                                                                            • thankgod someone else thinking like me.
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                                                                          • I have been prepping for years. If you have rice and you plan to store it long term then get white rice. It preserves much better and lasts longer. But before you vacuum seal it, which you need to do, you must first put it in the freezer for 4 days as this will prevent any weaval infestation. But make sure you have the sachets just like the ones on most products we buy from the store to deoxygenate the air around the product whether its rice, beans or something else. You must freeze the packets of chick peas, lentils and soup mix you buy dry in the freezer the same as for rice. Ignore the expiry dates on the back of the packets because they are only there in order for the stores to be guaranteed that people will throw them out of their kitchen pantry and purchase more. I recently discovered a packet of yellow split peas which expired in 2017 and I've been making kitchari with it. This is a popular Ayervedic meal and the only thing Id say is to soak anything you make with long expired food like that is to soak the beans etc in water and stock for longer prior to cooking it. Make sure that you pack your preps in large crates with lids that shut properly to prevent rodents from invading and eating your food. Because food is going to get SO expensive and sooner rather than later, get plenty of flavour sachets and stock cubes and herbs and spices because you WILL get bored eating the same very limited foods over the extended time frame. And you MUST get plenty of salt. Can you imagine having NO salt to season and taste foods as well as being able to store some foods in salt and you can use it for various other things including as a mouth gargle and to soak in bath water. Make sure you have plenty of regular medications on hand and pain killers, bandaids, gauze, sterile water etc. You buy what you think YOU might need because we are each different and have different health and family structures. I have about 50 different types of essential oils, the therapeutic kind not watered down artificial scents. It's amazing how many products we buy have essential oils in the mix and they can treat a plethora of conditions due to their antimicrobial, antiviral, antibacterial, pain removing, depression lifting properties and the list goes on. Ensure you have a LOT of cooking oil as this item has already gone up 10 times its pre 2022 cost. I saw that in Germany 2 litres of average cooking oil went from $6:99 Euro to $54:99 Euro in the space of a few days. I have ghee which is solid, comes in a jar or can and lasts unopened for a LONG time. Batteries, soaps, feminine hygiene products are other items you might want to think about buying and Hydrolyte especially if you have little ones or are caring for the elderly. I go into a store or a pharmacy and look at every item saying to myself "is there a possibility that I might need this one day " and if the answers yes then I buy it! It's not only the cost of things but the coming lack of availability that is the issue. The stories you're hearing about supply chain issues and blaming it on Russia and the Ukraine are lies. The world food supply is under attack by a group of VERY evil men and women who can't wait for global famine to kill as many "useless eaters " as possible and if you KNEW just how much food and livestock were being senselessly destroyed you'd cry as I have cried. This is going to make the Great Depression look like a Sunday School picnic in comparison. Get ready for the very first Hunger Games. Just make sure that the odds are in YOUR favour!
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                                                                            • Thank you very much for all the information Michelle
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                                                                            • You are more than welcome Maria! I forgot to add seeds such as sunflower, pepita's etc and I can't remember if I mentioned dried fruit either but I've added it now in case I forgot! Also keep some honey, especially raw honey, as it will keep for years and is great if you have to take a herbal tincture or another home remedy if it is bitter! Take care now!
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                                                                            • MariajMichelle S 553303
                                                                              Thank you Michelle and you too :-)
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                                                                          • What is the best as well. As if we have a lock down like china had for 40 days. The covid-19 lock down. We needed a back up in food.
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                                                                            • I am not sure which food last the longest in a desaster
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                                                                              • dried pasta ,beans, rice and tin cans of everything
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                                                                                • rice pasta tin food
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                                                                                  • Honey
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                                                                                    • In the right, controlled conditions there are many food types that can be stored indefinitely, for example wheat stored in the Egyptian pyramids for thousands of years still sprouted, but the question really is what type of disaster, how much do you need, how do you safely store it. Realistically and practically it seems to me that a buffer of a couple of weeks supply in the pantry will see me out, if it doesn't then I'm happy to quit
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                                                                                      • I agree with you
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                                                                                      • Dog food too eh Roger for our precious ones.
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                                                                                      • that's right, Cyndi gets Royal Canin, and , because I'm always worried about supply chain issues I currently have two bags in the back cupboard, thats 26 kilograms . that'll feed her for about two months.
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                                                                                      • mary croger l 315504
                                                                                        yes-i'd live on noodles but my girl needs her food!
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                                                                                    • rice, pasta
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                                                                                      • all rice, pasta etc, dried beans and other like foods shouldn't spoil if they are stored correctly and will last but there are no foods that will "never" spoil as eventually they will and they'll go stale anyway.
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                                                                                        • Dried beans, fruits, tea, coffee, honey, spam, pasta, rice
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                                                                                          • Your picture says it all, Salt, put it in your food pack, first aid kit ooopsy daisy just realised it's a bag of Rice! To add salt to injury I'm still sticking to my salty answer!
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                                                                                            • Das its work keep fresh food
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                                                                                            • Maria B 89860Mary M 329762
                                                                                              Yes, that's right, in the old days they always had some sort of salted meat hanging in the pantry and even back in the 70s when I visited the reli's overseas my aunt was still doing this and you'd just cut a bit off as you needed it ... like a big piece of jerky ... not sure how hygienic it was but I am here to tell the tale!!!!
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                                                                                          • no I don't
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                                                                                            • Just look to the armed forces ration packs if you want long life foods. Or foods they take into space.
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                                                                                              • Honey, Vegemite and McDonald's burgers will never spoil. They will last for centuries.
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                                                                                              • Anything in hermetically sealed packaging and not requiring a fridge or freezer.
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                                                                                                • Dried fruits, dried herbs, rice pasta. Coffee and tea. I have stock up a bit on them but I might just start stocking a few other items. Thanks for the idea.
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                                                                                                  • Pasta canned vegetables canned meat
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                                                                                                    • I was eating vegemite from the same jar for 10 years or longer. Very salty does not spoil.
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                                                                                                      • I did the same was full ok vegemite.
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                                                                                                    • Rice
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                                                                                                      • Honey & cans of goods
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                                                                                                        • friut diet
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                                                                                                          • It would be hard
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                                                                                                            • FAST FOOD BURGERS, LOL Seriously, rice and potato powder, mostly canned cherishables
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                                                                                                              • Yes. I do need for foods that never spoils especially if a disaster comes our way, I need to be prepared for it.
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                                                                                                                • Not sure on all of that question...but I think overall YES...why wouldn't you
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                                                                                                                  • asking for examples
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                                                                                                                  • APBNicole A 764628
                                                                                                                    Anything dried...or freeze dried...anything pickled..anything in a tin should be good for at least 100 years
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                                                                                                                • Rice, dry pasta, flour which is good for baking things like bread. Just make sure they are stored properly.
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                                                                                                                  • food with little to no fat in it stores for much longer.
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                                                                                                                    • The only food that I know that never spoils is - honey - which has already been mentioned. Other foods that last for a "long time" (if properly stored) are - powdered milk, uncooked white rice, dry pasta, and dried legumes.
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                                                                                                                      • Thank you, didnt think of honey. but of course'\
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                                                                                                                    • Apparently there are so many preservatives in McDonald’s chips that they don’t spoil. On the other hand, that could be an urban myth.
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                                                                                                                      • no, no it's not a myth. Worked with a lady, who told me her brother bought a BM at a local Mc D's (;P), which he brought home and he left the meal, untouched, in the laundry. About a month later, he unwrapped all items to find....all the food looking as 'fresh' as the day it was bought, including the chips. Needless to say the garden worms got to have first go at the 'food' described.
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                                                                                                                      • That’s what’s known as a scary thought.
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                                                                                                                    • Honey
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                                                                                                                      • Honey I read somewhere.
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                                                                                                                        • Bread doesn't taste as half as good when I was a kid. And milk can be in tins and packets as a mixture.
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                                                                                                                          • Why not! ... Rice, Wheat, Honey etcetera - but to digress remember when milk would go off after a couple of days (note use by dates on it now!) Bread ... was stale after a day and sold at half price as "Day Old Bread"!
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                                                                                                                            • Is that now Brad S (Esquire)?...or Brad south eat queensland?
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                                                                                                                          • We are not in a third world crisis, unless we get WW3. I don't really see a problem.
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