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Voting Age
Lyn A.24-Nov-22
What is the voting age in your country, and is it compulsory to vote?

In New Zealand at the moment, there's a push to lower voting age from 18 to 16 years
It has been stated "it's against human rights not to lower the age" wish someone could explain that one to me!!
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  • I vote 18
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    • I'm also from New Zealand, and the idea of a 16 year old voting is just rediculous!!, unless perhaps they are out of school and working full time.
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      • It is ridiculous to lower the voting age to 16...they are still children and have no idea about politics...it can also be said for some adults who don't really understand the importance of their vote...just look at this government (Australia) and their broken promises and high cost of energy. It is the government's role to take care of the people, not their own interests!!
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        • If you mean labour? You must realise who controls the Labor parties in Australia, and that freak in Victoria, Dan andrews. THE UNITED NATIONS ARE LEFTIST!
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      • I think it should be from age 25 up when they get to mature age and lived life and understand adult struggles!young people today have no clue about what my generation have lived they are very self entitled and spoilt with everything they have got!how can they make choices for people my age!!!there are more people in my age group 42 out of work and been homelessness.This generation hasn't seen anything yet!!!
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        • Well said...ally ! Maybe they need to put some in the youth army so they learn about what toughness is.
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      • Its a move by the woke left wing and government to increase voter base as they are in serious risk of being kicked out in 2023.Really this age they are still children and in general easily lead. At 18 I started voting and also volunteered for the Infantry and served my country. This age group in general only serves them selves, we have 5 kids (all adults now) but at times you could see a self centred attitude. They are just not mature enough and have very little world experience
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        • Very well put, Mr Morton! Its scary, mate, so scary!
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        • "They are just not mature enough and have very little world experience" That describes most politicians...
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        • Morton BPaul G 348946
          True enough
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      • DIRTY DAN THE DICTATOR! HE MUST BE EXTERMINATED!
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        • PLEASE SAVE VICTORIA FROM THE LEFTIST, ANDREWS GOVERMENT, HE MUST GO! You will face huge electricity and and gas prices. He will ruin business esp small to medium. The victorian economy is very important to the nation, so vote anyone but his goverment. Dont say you weren't warned!
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          • They may as well start giving the vote to newborns or foetuses in the womb if TPTB are planning to give 16 year old teens, who haven't the right to drink, serve their country in war, drive a vehicle on the road without a responsible adult in the vehicle with them or purchase alcohol to consume the rightto vote whilestilla student!. I was a pretty responsible teenager at 16 but I couldn't vote because I was too YOUNG and teens these days are still sucking their thumbs at age 16 or else they're throwing soup at masterpieces and sitting down on major highways to protest that the world is ending while screaming "we've got to stop using oil and gas and we must ONLY use windmills ans solar and stop driving cars" and this will lead us back in time to a pre Industrial Revolutionary lifestyle and damn the people who will die this winter because they won't have the money or the ability to heat their homes! Giving a 16 year old person the vote means that the vote will be one sided and that's to the far left. They believe that their parents, that's us, are responsible for destroying their planet and the people they ARE listening to are using extremely well designed propaganda to convince them that planet earth is dying and that WE are killing their opportunity for a future! They haven't been alive long enough to realise that these "predictions" have been going on since 1972, even before their own PARENTS were born and we're still here! They are emotional and deeply invested in a lie that will ultimately lead to the death of billions but if TPTB can harness their rage and their passion, in all its ignorance, they will have a situation where winning is a foregone conclusion! Thanks for reading!
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            • Lol
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          • PLEASE VOTE... DANIEL ANDREWS, THE VICTORIAN PREMIERE OUT OF PARLIAMENT. HES EVIL AND DANGEROUS!
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            • How is it discriminatory not to lower the voting age from 18 to 16? If this is the case, why is it 16? This is also surely discriminatory in itself. To go by these rules every live person must also be entitled to a vote even if they are not old enough to know what is going on.
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              • Who is schooling these youngster's? Filling their heads with dangerous ambitious ideas?
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            • I've heard many times in the past that the younger voters in Australia.... couldn't be bothered turning up to vote. There is still the old head in the sand with the youth.. Perhaps things are changing now, what with the covid crisis and the scaremongering about climate, and more of them are using social media..
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              • What is a better world? and what do they know about life? Let them get their first paycheck and then they might learn about life .
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                • In Australia it is 18 and compulsory. The only change I would make is to have it voluntary. I would still vote and at least if for some reason I did not, I would be happy that I would not be getting fined for not voting.
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                  • I think the United States you have to be 21 and older to vote.
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                    • In the U.S. it should be 21, and mandatory armed service duty of a minimum of two years or you can't vote until you're 31.
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                      • Agree and same in Australia.
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                    • NZ is out of control at the moment! The Ardern led Labour govt is unprecedented in its sweeping law changes and insistence that 16% of the population led by Tainui govern equally with the existing democratic arrangement. This is not democratic the move has been bought on under stealth with no transparency around intention and we are seeing the country divided as never before. Trying to lower the voting age is only one part of this fiasco. 16 yo's imo shouldnt be given the vote. If they are that mature then also lower the drinking age to 16, bet they wont be doing that! My reasoning, 16 yo's are not politically aware enough to vote. A lot of their parents are politically naive, NZ'ers have generally never taken a huge interest in politics and I believe most 16 yo's have other things on their minds than politics. This coming election is one of the most strategically importnat we have ever had as a country and I dont believe that age group would realise that. The 15-19 age group is an extra 300k people of that Maori make up 40k of that number. To answer your question the human rights aspect is a result of a supreme court ruling that marked the conclusion of a two-year case brought by a group of young campaigners, Make It 16, who argued that younger people should be able to vote on issues such as the climate crisis, which will disproportionately affect them and their futures. The Make It 16 campaign’s co-director, Caeden Tipler. “The government and parliament cannot ignore such a clear legal and moral message. They must let us vote.”
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                      • That THING that unfortunately is referred to as a PM, is a Socialist from WAY BACK and intends to do just to New Zealander's what the Australian government has planned for Australian's and that includes making medical freedom illegal! She's a WEF "Young Globalist" and if you had heard her speech at the latest G20 gathering of some "world leader's", world "destroyers" more like it, you would be far more terrified than you are at the present moment. There is only one reason and one reason ONLY for giving a 16 year old child a vote and that is that they will vote for the Socialist regime! After being endlessly reminded that if they, teenagers, aren't heard then the world will turn to toast and we'll all be dead by 2030. Children have been taught through "Common Core" which is actually "Communist Core" an indoctrination system pretending to be about education, with activism for THEIR planet and on how to express their "feelings", once again for activism purposes, being a primary goal!..We, being anyone over 40, are to blame for the state of the planet now by our "evil capitalistic ways" and a group of angry, hormonal and largely still uneducated and prostetalised kids who hate their parents are going to bow at the alter of Ms Ardern and pledge their allegiance and OUR freedoms and lay them at the feet of this WEF politician who sees so many positives, like Chairman Trudeau from Canada, in the Chinese system where you can be locked up for an increasingly numerous amount of reasons of which none are on the basis of "health"! I don't know if you have a lawyer in the family but I would imagine that your "constitution" has several new addendums and inclusions to National Acts which will make you sick if youread them. Ardern is a pit viper, curled up and ready to pounce on anyone who has the audacity to disagree with her. She is a darling of the Elites and will soon have an army of "useful idiots" who will vote her back in, not that she was planning to go anywhere anyway, but we must give the useless eaters the idea that their vote means anything anyway! Sorry for the rant but teens do not have the life skills to discern when they are being propagandised! Their brains are still developing and they shouldn't be responsible for ANYTHING more serious than a video-game control. I'll leave it there. Thanks for reading.
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                      • Paul G 348946Michelle S 553303
                        Yes, the kids will all have been indoctrinated by teachers who share Ardern's Socialist leanings, just like in Australia. (our universities are even worse...)
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                      • Cat8Paul G 348946
                        thats right every learning institution is effected. My school teacher friend tells me their 'new' NZ history cirriculum has just come out. So, its telling a story that is now not factual, however it is sympathetic to Maori and apparently thats really what matters.
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                      • Cat8Michelle S 553303
                        our ' constitution' is the treaty of waitangi which has been spun and misinterpreted to suit. Absurdly its only 3 pages long however that is being used as the basis for pushing the UN co governance agenda.
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                      • Michelle S 553303Paul G 348946
                        Universities stopped actually teaching subject material around about the turn of the millennium. I was a mature age student back then but activism was in its early days then, at least the mass hysterical kind that is. I listened to this man who left his Russian homeland and recieved refugee status in Canada around the 1970's. He was born in 1939, the same year as my father, and although I cannot think of either his Russian name or the surname of his Anglicised name at this point in time, his first name was Thomas. He was very keen to get to the "West" so that he could save our democratic nations from Communism and eagerly started his efforts to get the word out, but he realised early on that nothing he had to tell our Western leaders was "news" and that they had very little interest in how propaganda had shaped the Eastern Bloc countries and how to change it. They already knew all about propaganda from the CIA and he died a broken man a few short years later. But I have listened to a lecture he gave to a small group of individuals who DID want to hear what he had to say and what he said was chilling in how RIGHT he was about how long it takes to demoralise a nation and how to subvert democracy. You start with the CHILDREN because they are sponges and absorb everything, good, bad or whatever! He said it takes 20 years, about the length of a generation! Back in the "dark ages", 30+ years or so ago, women had children much earlier than they do now, if they have any at all. I was a young mum having the first of my 5 at 17 and my last just after my 28th birthday but today both the number of children and the ages when "birthing people " ( don't you HATE the way TPTB have destroyed the beauty of language?) but essentially 20 years is the length of time that us needed to destroy a culture and a people. I listened to this in mid 2021 and I realised that almost exactly 20 years before 9/11 changed the world! The never ending "war on terror" started and the climate change lies began to be hyped. Can everyone remember "An Inconvenient Truth"? Gore is STILL peddling his nonsense but he's not the only fish out there earning millions and with the help of social media and the militancy of "climate activists" today. if you didn't have your head screwed on properly you would think like Henny Penny that the "sky was falling in! I know where I can find that poor man's name and the lecture he gave and I revisit it occasionally and if anyone is interested, I will share where it can be located. I pity the poor kids today and their lack of freedom and joy. but it is THEY who are shouting the loudest for "A Brave New World" but leading all of us into "1984"! Thanks for reading.
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                      • Cat8Michelle S 553303
                        thanks nice info share.
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                      • it's absolutely shocking how the WEF and other government agencies including the Senate and Department of Representatives here in Australia can ALL KNOW about it but it is a very rare person within the political landscape who is willing to put themselves and everything they hold dear up for forfeiture and tell the truth. I don't know who you have in NZ who might potentially be a whistle-blower but I've got to say that you kiss any anonymity goodbye regardless of the processes supposedly put in place to protect you. Ms Ardern held high level talks with Blackrock about a month ago and I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall for THAT meeting. Who knows what part of the North or South Island and WHAT was the trade? Ive seen some videos on Bitchute referencing Ardern and her recent "friendly chats" with Chairman Ping who she thinks runs China "very well". Trudeau is another fan and THESE 2 countries are supposed to be our "allies". I would have loved to have gone and visited NZ but it's never going to happen. I WOULD say to you try and see the Health Act and note any recent amendments which have been signed into Law. I'm sure they're out there! You live in a gorgeous environment in NZ and I do wish you the best! If you have any spare money buy extras food, blankets, torches, batteries, candles etc and have a secondary means of cooking like a BBQ! If you can buy kerosene cheaply near where you live buy a kerosene lantern and a heater. I'll leave the explanation for another time. Thanks for reading!
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                      • Cat8Michelle S 553303
                        oh we know all about prepping, believe me. Ardern will be voted out next year she is well disliked, things might settle for a bit after that.
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                    • IF YOUR IN VICTORIA....PLEASE DON'T VOTE FOR DICTATOR, AND 4EYES, DAN ANDREWS; PLEASE SAVE VICTORIA!
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                      • The young blighters can wait until they are at least 18. Since they aren't working, not full time... when they are that young...they should have no rights till they are adults.
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                        • To trust a 16 year old with a powerful thing like a vote, nope! To easily swayed by free stuff that ain’t free, the great (in my case) New Zealand tax payer foots the bill.
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                          • Voting age needs to be legal adult age.
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                            • CAPTURE THEM YOUNG AND BRAINWASH THEM WHILE THEY ARE STILL YOUNG!
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                              • I thought it was 18 or 21 in America, but it should stay where it is. I truly believe that if it isn't broken, don't go tryin to fix it, or change it. I don't hear our young people crying out that the age to vote is too old. They just seem to accept the age it is. Of course there's always the select few that challenge anything just to be rebellious, especially as a young adult. But leave the voting age alone, it's worked for a long time and will continue to!
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                                • Candy some people, not me, believe it is broken and should be fixed.
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                                • 2025Roy R 1009866
                                  Whats their agenda? Sick people!
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                                • GigiRoy R 1009866
                                  What exactly is broken, according to others! NOT YOU!
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                                • GigiGigi
                                  Let's have an adult civil conversation about the voting age. I know we can do it in a respectful, thoughtful, caring manner.
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                                • Candy what is that supposed to mean? I even know how to use punctuation, like question marks. I said in my comment to your original statement some believe it is broken because you said if it isn't broken don't fix it. If people had this backward way of thinking we would still be riding in horse drawn carriages and cooking on open fires. The way things get changed is from time to time re-evaluate what is happening and then maybe decide that there are better ways to do things. Voting right now is one of those things
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                                • GigiRoy R 1009866
                                  yes, true, times change and we adapt, but where I'm from I stay up on my political news and no one here is talking about the voting age being an issue. It's more of an issue that our ballot counting and system of voting is broken and that's what needs fixed. Our voting age is not being disputed by anyone. We, for the greater part, agree that the voting age is right on at 21 yrs. So we need to work on the issues we do believe are needing addressed, and we are certainly addressing them. Not quite sure why your jumping down my throat!! What's an issue for your country isn't necessarily one in mine. So????????????????
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                                • Hi Candy, I believe you first mention the voting age in your comments or questions back at the beginning of this conversation, that's why I raised it in my reply. Aside from that, why do you think I'm jumping down your throats. Could it be because I may have a different opinion than you? How do you know what country I am from to suggest we have different rules and regulations regarding voting?
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                              • I wish nz well...but until the people wake up, theres not much hope for NZ. Just like the fools who voted for Labor government in Australia. They will be sorry eventually.
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                                • Of course its 18 in Australia. Whats the dam point in lowering the age of voting if your still in school? Many of these kids still dont understand politics at that age and even at 18. Who was the morons who said it's against human rights? Who in their bright wisdom came up with that idea? Will it soon be legal to drink alcohol at 16? No, it should not be lower than 18. Its seems like a good excuse to capture more of the youth vote by the major parties in NZ. The current NZ goverment... run by Jacinta, is a leftard goverment. Her and her goverment are very dangerous. They brainwash kids in the schools over there...as they do in Australian schools. Feeding them all sort of nonsense about subjects such as climate change, and gay rights. Nz voted for a left goverment. Severs them right if things get worse over there. I've heard that Jacinta isn't as popular over there as she used to be. So maybe people are finally waking up. A LEFTARD GOVERMENT IS A DANGEROUS GOVERMENT!
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                                  • Hi Lyn. I can try to explain it for you. The younger you are, the more likely you are to vote with your heart and not your head! So agendas like equality, workers rights, the environment etc, all sound like things you should be behind. Later in life you work out that "it's the economy stupid", and vote "right wing". The lower the voting age, the more votes for demorats/labour/greens/red shirts etc. It has nothing to do with "human rights", it"s another method of ballot harvesting by the left! (It's harder to encourage illegal immigration on islands like NZ and AUS, as it is with land borders like Mexico.), so lets lower the voting age instead!
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                                    • Yep, and its disgusting!
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                                  • Should they be able to totally support themselves with no help from their parents or the Government then that is fine by me. Voting is a privilege and a responsibility, not a toy.
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                                    • The voting age is 18 in the USA! It is NOT compulsory to vote in USA. However, some states (USA) make it very difficult for minorities to vote! FYI: It was not the young (too young to vote) that voted Trump into office. It was not the young (too young to vote) that caused climate change - it was the old (relative term) and greed (capitalism) that caused climate change!
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                                      • Let's go Brandon
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                                      • More lies from... blm. There is no discrimination regards to voting in the US.
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                                      • 2025JAMIE D 156261
                                        who is Brandon?
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                                      • BLACK LIVES MATTERJAMIE D 156261
                                        Let's go D.T. - maybe 2024 will treat you better - lol!
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                                      • 2025BLACK LIVES MATTER
                                        lol. UP WITH THE TRUMPETS!
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                                    • YEP its also against human rights to breathe. In Aust it is 18 and compulsory. though if you dont want to vote, you need to get yourself marked of and deliver a blank voting sheet. 16 is too young, but Ardern is busy trying to please her WEF handlers, she is promoting a global vaccine passport, The horse need to be coralld
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                                      • The age to vote is 18, drink is 21, drive a car is 16. No to lowering voting age. 16 is too young and immature.
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                                        • 18 to drink...18 to go to war and maybe die....18 to drive a car....and 18 to vote too...
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