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Political correctness, harmful or helpful.
David S25-Feb-21
Has political correctness gotten to a stage where it is more harmful to society than it is helpful. Everyone seems to be so easily offended by the most silliest of things and people seem to be bending over backwards to appease what are often minority groups.
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  • Angie
    I'm going to refrain from commenting on this one... I'd hate to poke a stick and feel the wrath of GG
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    • Gunter L
      Political correctness is an oxymoron. Enough said. (btw. "military intelligence" is also an oxymoron)
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      • Grommie
        Conversation stifling is what pc os
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        • Robert F 1161011
          Helpful to some, tolerable to some, and annoying to others. Harmful to no one.
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          • BLACK LIVES MATTER
            Once upon a time - Political Correctness was called Colonialism. I guess political correctness is in the eyes of the beholder and the color of their skin!!!!!!!!!
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            • Tom S Qld
              Political correctness gone mad. A new law - passed by the Scottish parliament late in December ’22 - would allow transgender individuals over the age of 16 years to apply for a birth certificate declaring their legal gender without a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria. Despite significant dissent - which saw the resignation of one minister - the Scottish parliament passed the legislation with cross-party support six years after it was proposed by Scotland's longest-serving First Minister Nicola Sturgeon. Opponents of the law were outraged by reports that convicted double rapist Isla Bryson - who came out as a transgender woman after her crimes - was being initially assessed in a women’s prison. Bryson, born male but who began transitioning to a woman after being charged, spent days in a female prison. Ms Sturgeon spoke out on the issue, saying “a rapist should not be in a women's prison”. Within days of her comments, Bryson was moved to a male prison, At an excruciating press conference this month, the First Minister referred to Bryson as a ‘her’ but was then unable to say whether she considered the convicted rapist to be a woman or not when repeatedly asked. Today the First Minister Nicola Sturgeon resigned.
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              • Busyasabee NZ
                Yes people are too easily offended
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                • Peter T 100083
                  I shall refrain from what i think! Of all that is going on now days
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                  • Jill C 997446
                    Carried way too far.
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                    • Luv ur
                      Screw political correctness. Be tactful, that's all.
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                      • Phyrephly
                        Agreeeeeeed! If you are not a person who deliberately wants to harm, harass, embarrass others, then generally, you won't.
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                    • john v 551148
                      bovine waste is the p c form to describe it
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                      • john v 551148
                        pretty silly,eh?
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                        • Carolyn7 P
                          I believe there are times to be politically correct but in essence, I have a very sarcastic personality when it comes to humor. I am tired of everyone being so "offended" by everything. It is as simple as "if you don't like it then don't look at it, don't listen to it. That is your right. Me...I love dark humor and that is my right.
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                          • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                            It is not political correctness that got us in this MESS - it is racism and sexism that got us in this MESS!! Everybody says honest is the BEST policy - but nobody actually practices honesty.
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                            • Luv ur
                              When people are being racist or sexist, that is their honesty, whether you and I agree or not. It may be ignorant, but they speak their truth. Like your screen name being "black lives matter". Who came up with that. If you aren't racist, your name would be " all lives matter". I'm white and live in Arizona and I am the minority, but I stand for all lives mattering.
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                            • BLACK LIVES MATTERLuv ur
                              If "all lives matter" explain the Breonna Taylor incident and the lying by white police officers - which finally led to a federal indictment - years later. Explain the Emmitt Till incident. Explain the George Floyd incident - seen on nationwide TV. The list goes (forever), but I am racist!
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                            • Luv urBLACK LIVES MATTER
                              I don't have any control over anyone but me. And I do my damnedest to be honest and no one can take that away from me. I've yet to meet a perfect person. Now I'm done churning and regurgitating an "idea" over and over. Have a good day. For real. ;-)
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                            • BLACK LIVES MATTERLuv ur
                              One, the post was NOT about a perfect person. Two, the post WAS about political correctness (harmful or helpful). Three, I am Black, and I am a minority in California (Blacks make up 6 percent of the population in California). What is your point about being a minority in Arizona? Four, you are stating it is okay to be a racist and/or sexist. - which has nothing to do with being honest - REALLY - you are JOKING. Five, racist and sexist make the argument they don't have any control over anyone but themselves - Guess where you learn to be a racist and sexist - at HOME - from your PARENTS! Six, have a good day. For real :-))!
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                            • Luv urBLACK LIVES MATTER
                              NEVER SAID RACISM OR SEXISM ARE OK. I said it was somebody's truth. Not even close to mine.
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                            • BLACK LIVES MATTERLuv ur
                              You implied RACISM or SEXISM was OKAY as long as it expressed under the disguise of HONESTY or somebody's TRUTH! Just like you implied I am a racist in your first post to me because my moniker's name is Black Lives Matter - I must be a racist - REALLY! Do you want to play SEMANTICS?
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                            • Luv urBLACK LIVES MATTER
                              and?????
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                            • BLACK LIVES MATTERLuv ur
                              You are not very good at semantics (cannot remember your FIRST post to me - which was not based on facts but on warped opinions). So much for your so called cherish HONESTY! LET ME REPEAT MYSELF: YOU ARE A RACIST AND SEXIST. Ciao!
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                          • Chris A 117384
                            Strangely enough, PC is a form of bullying in itself
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                            • Luv ur
                              Great, an over thinker. Philosophy at its finest.
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                          • MARGARET p 388156
                            steven you are right and thank you and i will keep saying Merry Christmas .
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                            • Luv ur
                              Merry Christmas to you too.
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                          • Belle S
                            There's not going to be any of our childhood memories left if they keep going...!!!
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                            • Belle S
                              Now they are talking political Correctness on Dr Suess books. Who comes up with these things & why now???
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                              • Luv ur
                                People are insecure with themselves and look ANYWHERE to feel justified. Leave Suess alone. He did wonderful things for inclusion.
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                            • Brian 511603
                              Its helpful for the timid meek and for those who want to impose unrealistic values onto the rest of us
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                              • David S 170919
                                Great responses, I'm glad I'm not the only one who still is politically INcorrect :) Just to clarify my use of minority groups, there are minorities within larger groups as well as minority groups, it doesn't always encompasses a whole group. And I'm glad not everyone easily offended ;).
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                                • Leslie D 488751
                                  Political correctness is just a form of terrorism, or control, because if you say anything now you are either condemned or you are a racist. All the do gooders today have got their way and even the law makers bow to their demands. I pity the children growing because they will not be able to say what is on their minds.
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                                  • LEANNE B 221779
                                    Both
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                                    • Margaret C 68385
                                      Political correctness is a mega PAIN IN THE BUM!! Are we becoming so thin skinned that we can't be ourselves anymore? So glad I'm at this end of my life. All these do gooders are giving me a headache!
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                                      • Imperia S
                                        so over this subject
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                                        • Henry W 362692
                                          PC has gone over the top in many instances,Coon cheese changed because it may offend yet it was ok for 80 years,Redskin lollies are now offensive where will it stop,wives & husbands are now partners what the hell is happening
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                                          • Roslyn A
                                            Not EVERYONE is offended. We are just such a polite society that we allow everybody their opinion which allows the minority of wackos to create new rules.
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                                            • greg c 125916
                                              A leftist inspired heap of sh--t .Its time everyone realised that all humans are NOT the same --there will always be chiefs and Indians .stop trying to make laws that go against the very grain of human nature that has evolved over thousands of years
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                                              • Luv ur
                                                You go Chief Greg. Now I'm an Indian and I got better things to do like hunt and gather. Lol
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                                              • allinLuv ur
                                                as a part Cherokee Indian i take offense to your remark, nothing to do with PC, it's got to do with racism,you are doing just what you are complaining about, and you did it with Walter, and who in AZ is the majority if it ain't white, i been watching you in the polls i happen to be some of the same ones as you, and you are just trying to start trouble,,
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                                              • Moposallin
                                                Agreed allin and further more they don't think we notice!
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                                              • allinMopos
                                                i know, really
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                                              • Moposallin
                                                Yes.
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                                              • allin
                                                you must agree that some of that evolution was not very good, we make laws for the good of all, or i should say for the good of some,, see there is some of that bad evolution in effect right there, but you see it your way and others see it their way,, see, more bad evolution, mistakes are meant to be learned from, but some folks just don't see it that way,, oh well, like beating a dead horse 'eh, caca occurs i reckon ;-))
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                                            • Priscilla R 316016
                                              All the fun and the great larrickinism of being an Aussie has fully disappeared. I remember one of my best friends at school, an Aussie through and through, and I would trade smart alec wisecracks with each other, but still remained friends. Alas those days are gone.
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                                              • Mary M 329762
                                                I think Australia is what used to be. No freedom. No speak and its not like old Australia no more
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                                                • Sabine V
                                                  Not true-no such thing
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                                                  • Barbara T
                                                    Sick of pandering to these minority groups ....... I say it the way it is, right or wrong ........ too bad, so sad .........
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                                                    • Judy CH
                                                      It has gone crazy, Gollywogs were Chimney sweeps. It is alright for someone to say kill a white but the other way around is wrong. I have many Friends of all colours and have no problems. It is a persons behaviour that causes problems and earns them labels.
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                                                      • Maria S 460525
                                                        there have been some good points made in this discussion ,I agree with quite a few so I won't repeat what you have all said but agree!
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                                                        • JANET R 328390
                                                          I personally think it has got way out of control. For example to ruin a company COON because it might offend someone. RUBBISH I say. Also to say black gollywogs are offensive is absolute rubbish too. I see it as bowing down to minority groups. I love my gollywog AND ALWAYS WILL.
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                                                          • Aisha A 379399
                                                            When you say minority groups, some people might get offended. As for me, I don't always like change. Like for example, when they changed Coon cheese to Cheer cheese. That's so annoying and I don't think it's necessary.
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                                                            • Judi D
                                                              I agree because that was the name of the founder of the company.
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                                                          • Beverly I
                                                            Political correctness has gotten out of hand .About agenda"s as far as I"m concerned we are who we are born as ,if you are born a girl that is what you are if born a boy you are a boy simple,
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                                                            • Glenys C
                                                              I have no problems with people of every persuasion but I do think it wrong to make "normal" to be "abnormal".
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                                                              • Ian F 71654
                                                                This is way out of control, ,and will stay the same as we have LGBT Ministers in Government, Parents are the best to advise the Children who and what they are , the latest suppression Bill, is taking control Away from the parents, I will not stop praying for people in need ,including any Children who are in need, and are confused by all the transgender rubbish It is time that the LGBT and the transgender received less exposure, and to stop confusing the Children, Boys will be Boys and Girls will be Girls
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                                                                • LEANNE B 221779
                                                                  That’s because we shouldn’t trust parents like yourselves obviously to not pass on your own prejudices
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                                                              • Katzeye
                                                                Like everyone else has stated..PC gone mad and I think it will get worse.
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                                                                • suzi v
                                                                  depends if we are into politics
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                                                                  • Catherine G 309964
                                                                    Political correcttness has gone way too far
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                                                                    • Chuckles
                                                                      I'M sick and tired of minority groups having a loud voice and disrupting things that people can do or say.The trouble is some of this rubbish is being taught in schools, confusing most of the kids.Black lives matter, and so does white, muslim,hispanic.aboriginal and every other race.Leave things alone .
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                                                                      • Andrew T 123623
                                                                        I was at a place that catered meals, just because of one was a vegetarian and gluten free, everyone else (35) had to go vegetarian and gluten free for the day so it would not upset one person, Yes PC has gone to far.
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                                                                        • Katzeye
                                                                          Sorry I just need to jump in here..being gluten free is NOT always a fad diet,some people like myself have to eat gluten free because of the serious harm it can do to our bodies having coeliac disease is NOT a choice it is something we have to live with forever,there is no cure so any cross contamination will make us really sick.In defence of the others that could eat normally,they should of prepared the gluten free meal offsite and kept it separate for that one person.
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                                                                        • Edith v
                                                                          I don't think Andrew was being critical of someone eating Gluten free .I think the same as him there should have been a menu that gave choices
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                                                                        • KatzeyeEdith v
                                                                          That's not the way it reads to me Edith otherwise why would he mention it was PC gone too far?
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                                                                      • Lyn 78550
                                                                        Yes it has gone completely wrong. There is no room for laughing at innocent things now without someone being offended. I refer to Joyce's response. This got me as I read this story in depth. It is about The Australian National University's handbook. They want to change it due to being careful of gender-specific language. This would include cancelling the terms mother and father. Father is now promoted as non-gestating parent of chest fed children. Mother is the gestational parent. There is more to this if you wanted to look it up. Talk about George Orwell's book coming to fruition. This was the final straw for me. I believe in the goodness of people and that children should be taught manners and also the saying of treat others as you yourself would like to be treated. All very simple but obviously not included for many as, once again, it is not taught in their homes.
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                                                                        • Mopos
                                                                          Well said Lyn, I agree whole heartedly! Easy to read posts, even if it's months on..... just saying :)
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                                                                        • Lyn 78550Mopos
                                                                          That is so true Mopos. I had actually forgotten this one. lol. Have a good weekend. x
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                                                                        • MoposLyn 78550
                                                                          Now, nearly a couple of years on......
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                                                                        • Lyn 78550Mopos
                                                                          So it shows its head again. I forgot that I wrote so much then. lol. Have a good evening. x
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                                                                      • Keith L 485431
                                                                        Totally agree with David S. It's time the 'woke' brigade woke up to themselves
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                                                                        • roger l 315504
                                                                          depends what you define as a minority group, indigehous, obese, disability definately but 'I'm fooended because you spread butter before adding jam and cream, or other such waffle and then there's the 'religious' people wha abuse me and my dog by screaming 'devil dog' when they stumble over her in a cafe, seems politeness has been supplanted by political correctness
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                                                                          • Christine M 323842
                                                                            Pc is bs
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                                                                            • Maria B 89860
                                                                              I ignore it and carry on as if it doesn't exist. I don't give it air to breath so to speak, ignorance can in that way be bliss. I brush these creatures aside, no not by touching but by glaring. Tell them to peddle their brainwashing techniques elsewhere I have my own beliefs of right and wrong.
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                                                                              • MARGARET p 388156
                                                                                This has gone over the top we can not say Merry Christmas its now Happy Holidays Really.
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                                                                                • Paul J 94868
                                                                                  Harmful..(also ridiculous)...
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                                                                                  • mario s 74494
                                                                                    political correctness = controlled speech.
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                                                                                    • Phyrephly
                                                                                      controlled speech=controlled thought
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                                                                                  • Patman Newcastle
                                                                                    Gone too far.
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                                                                                    • Peter M 273033
                                                                                      Some people seem to spend 24/7 being offended if not on their own behalf then on the behalf of some fleeting fashionable cause of the moment. It achieves absolutely nothing and trivialises what may once have been important issues. I know this as I am a member of several oppressed groups - and so you may NOT disagree with me. ROFL!!!
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                                                                                      • Glenys H 310155
                                                                                        gone too far.... to the stage it is ridiculous. If this is the crap are children and grandchildren are been taught at school I really despair for the future.
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                                                                                        • Rose S 88496
                                                                                          Yes yes yes blown all out of proportion these days
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                                                                                          • Bernadette S 103492
                                                                                            Political correctness has gone too far. Not being able to say 'man' or 'woman' without being in the wrong is just ridiculous. Go to the Bible where it says "God made them Man and Woman". It is harmful.
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                                                                                            • roger b 167654
                                                                                              Yes, quite correct - the Bible is harmful - have been quite a few crusades and wars over it.
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                                                                                          • Stephen F 84899
                                                                                            I totally agree with Cindy N
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                                                                                            • Cindy N 315785
                                                                                              Political correctness has gone way overboard. There was a time we learnt resilience and how to defend ourselves against what we didn't like or like to hear. These days we are raising a generation of soft touches that have no resilience and nobody is game to say jack shit. Coping skills have gone by the wayside.
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                                                                                              • michael g 433073
                                                                                                beverley is correct - minorities get too much power
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                                                                                                • Beverley S 383001
                                                                                                  It is totally over the top! Minorities are pandered to by Governments to the detriment of the everyday citizens.
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                                                                                                  • Belle S
                                                                                                    It's so out of control it's becoming ridicules, I've never seen rainbow sheep in my whole entire life.
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                                                                                                    • Macca
                                                                                                      Absolutely out of control, nobody can say anything. Offends someone.
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                                                                                                      • Larry S 382961
                                                                                                        how far is this going. we now have hospitals/birthing centres calling mothers/fathers crazy/stupid names
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                                                                                                        • Val B 69099
                                                                                                          Most stupid thing to ever happen
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                                                                                                          • Bill B 394870
                                                                                                            Ignore it and be yourself - the best way to defeat it, but you may become an outcast! But thats ok too....
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                                                                                                            • Joe B 288252
                                                                                                              If society reinforced good manners, respect and common civility them we would have no need for the BS of political correctness...lol
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                                                                                                              • Lyn 78550
                                                                                                                This is so true. Easy solution Joe but unfortunately many do not have this capability. Take care.
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                                                                                                            • Brian M 325759
                                                                                                              Worst thing that ever happened.
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                                                                                                              • Dada WA
                                                                                                                senseless is how I would describe it.
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                                                                                                                • Leah W 215315
                                                                                                                  I have long said that political correctness has reached the point that it is politically incorrect. We try so hard to not offend one group, that we end up offending everyone else. It would be better to just be kind, and respectful of people as individuals. The minute you try to label a group as something (no matter your intentions) you are going to offend someone. I think we should just treat people as we would want to be treated. After all, we are all human beings.
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                                                                                                                  • Lyn 78550
                                                                                                                    That is the golden rule in my book Leah and one that I taught my children. Treat others as you yourself would want to be treated. Easy really to do but so hard for some. Take care.
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                                                                                                                • Grommie
                                                                                                                  Grommie always opens the door, but if it's a politician he bites their ankle. He can spot a political correction merchant from a mile away.. and sometimes they aren't politicians, just dorks
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                                                                                                                  • Bugalugs
                                                                                                                    Political Correctness has gone stark, ravbing mad. The latest being a bunch of do-called academics - in fact stupid, bored, people with not enough real work to do, decidiing that we must no longer use the terms Mum, Dad, Mother, Father etc. and must replace them with Gestational parent, birthing parent, non birthing parent. Yes, we should try not to say things which are hurtful etc. but that does not mean we shoul simply say nothing if we disagree with someone. Manners have noting to do with Politicial Correctness, Gender Bias or any of the other claims made. I still hold a door open if some woman or man approaches and they have thewur hands full of parcels or have a child with them, for my family members, I still do not let a door slam in someone's face who is behind me - though given the torrent of sexist abuse by some women when I keep the door open for them I sometimes wish I had and that it had broken their botox-filled faces.
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                                                                                                                    • Lyn 78550
                                                                                                                      Yes read this and it is going beyond comprehension in my books as far as renaming mum and dad etc. Stupidity !. Take care.
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                                                                                                                  • Robin L 79437
                                                                                                                    harmful
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                                                                                                                    • Rod R 101788
                                                                                                                      Both, I still open doors for my wife and mother & I don't shut them in the next persons faces. We call it manners & respect.
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                                                                                                                      • Lyn 78550
                                                                                                                        Thanks for this Rod and I love to have this happen to me. I do hold the door open when I enter a store etc. Manners and respect are the right words and unfortunately they are lacking today imo. Take care.
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                                                                                                                      • Rod R 101788Lyn 78550
                                                                                                                        Thankyou
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                                                                                                                      • Lyn 78550Rod R 101788
                                                                                                                        My pleasure and you take care. Lyn.
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                                                                                                                    • Jennifer H 396811
                                                                                                                      Political correctness does not exist in my world - I totally ignore the idiots that believe in it.
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                                                                                                                      • Sonya F 68771
                                                                                                                        Yes it can be
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                                                                                                                        • Hester Morine
                                                                                                                          Go back to using the correct English and forget this political correctness rubbish.
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                                                                                                                          • Colin L 88398
                                                                                                                            In many cases it has gone way beyond what it was supposed to cure. When a woman canmake a complaint of Sexual Harasmant because someone opened a door for them it has turned into a COMPLETE JOKE.
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                                                                                                                            • James B 70778
                                                                                                                              Very halmful
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                                                                                                                              • Amber W 99673
                                                                                                                                I had a lesbian friend once and I didn’t realise she went out and changed her name, I called her by her name I knew, and she flipped the lid at me because she was offended straight away. It’s common sense to tell people that you change your name and not have a go at them all because they don’t know ?? People shit me off these days
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                                                                                                                                • Frank N
                                                                                                                                  One thing that interests me is that "political correctness" only seems to apply to some things. For example, it's not politically correct to call someone "fat", let alone "obese", yet I never seem to hear anything said when people use terms like "four eyes" for people who wear glasses.
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                                                                                                                                  • Christine M 323842
                                                                                                                                    I’ve couldn’t help but note all the people on here who were referring to things as “ crazy”. That’s probably one of the most used and most politically incorrect terms used.
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                                                                                                                                • Robert nsw
                                                                                                                                  in some ways it is getting out of hand
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                                                                                                                                  • SueM2
                                                                                                                                    The whole world is going to hell in a handbasket and I'm glad I'll be getting off soon!
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                                                                                                                                    • Grommie
                                                                                                                                      Dear Sue, please stay !!!
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                                                                                                                                  • Sheree T
                                                                                                                                    The whole world has gone crazy if only we could turn back time when people respected each other.
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                                                                                                                                    • Sue2
                                                                                                                                      Everything is so PC these days, its crazy. Gone are the days when we use to have abit fun.
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                                                                                                                                      • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                                                                                                                                        Intriguing use of the word appeasing (since you are using the word as unreasonable concessions) - in regards to minority's groups civil liberties and civil rights - since I am a card-carrying member of a despite minority group (minority groups are not entitled to civil rights and civil liberties - on the same basis that Whites are). Political Correctness is quite helpful for Whites - lets them express their indignation with change and keeps their WHITE PRIVELIGES - intact . Political Correction is quite harmful for minorities - especially for Blacks - I am Black - it means nothing is EVER going to change (where everyone is treated equally under the law - NOT treated under the law based on their skin pigmentation)! Example: A White, former president - got away with attempting to pull of a coup in the USA - and was not penalized under the law - that only happens if you are White - Political Correction is quite helpful for Whites!
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                                                                                                                                        • Lyn 78550
                                                                                                                                          So very true Walter and also so sad. After all this time nothing really has changed that much for coloured people in America. Looking at documentaries from long ago there were always good intentions but nothing has happened. I do not envy you living there and please know that you are welcome in Australia any day. You have many friends on this site. Take care of yourself.
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                                                                                                                                      • Brenda J 463318
                                                                                                                                        Harmful. Some people are losing their jobs over it. shameful.
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                                                                                                                                        • Shirley H 391879
                                                                                                                                          So boring! Political correctness is stifling our sense of humour. Once we would make a joke about blondes, people too short, people too large, redheads, religion, sex, skinny legs, big teeth, and the list goes on. Everybody was in the firing range. Now? We can’t laugh at life’s vagaries in case we are being politically incorrect! For myself? I was freckle, redhead, poor and divorced parents. (Back then divorce was a big no-no). So I was a target. I came out ok?
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                                                                                                                                          • Amber 22
                                                                                                                                            I think there is so much bad in the world that it no longer takes a lot to push some overt the edge it is not fair how some get good while others have to suffer all the time they have no chance at good they just get discredited all the time till they can no longer bear the hart acek think and stop before you say or act it makes all the difference
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                                                                                                                                            • Linda C
                                                                                                                                              Yep agree completely.
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                                                                                                                                              • Disie
                                                                                                                                                It had gone too far. I'm asked in Surveys about "Inappropriate Jokes in the workplace" What makes it inappropriate? That they're about sex and funny?? I don't know about you, but I love a good dirty joke at work. or any time for that matter
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                                                                                                                                                • Priscilla R 316016
                                                                                                                                                  I do, I do. But it is rare to hear a good and funny joke these days as everyone is too scared of offending someone else.
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                                                                                                                                              • APB
                                                                                                                                                There will be a time in our future where they will look back at our obsessive need not to offend people...and they will laugh...that is if our species has enough time left on this planet...it doesn't look very good at the moment...and everyone is worried about covid 19 too..it is not covid that will kill us...it will be people
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                                                                                                                                                • Gaza
                                                                                                                                                  It's a load of cr_p and very harmful.
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