Discussion of the Day
Should our government be allowed to take our 2nd amendment?
05-Dec-22
In short, the Second Amendment states that as an American citizen, you have the individual right to arm yourself. The amendment also firmly establishes that the government cannot infringe on that right. Why should our guns be taken when there is so much more going on in the world? I think if our guns were taken, we would have more crimes. We would not be able to protect ourselves in our homes. We would have people coming on in our homes, and we would have no one to stop them.
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  • People say that they need guns for protection. All guns kill. Try a taser, a bat a knife. Someone might still have a chance to live, but a gun more than likely they're gonna end up dead. If you want a gun for protection especially if you're a woman don't they could take that gun from you and shoot you with it
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    • No! We should have the right to protect ourselves and our family from the people who should not have the right to bear arms!!
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      • Sorry,I can't comment on gun laws outside of my own country. Australian law is vastly different.
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        • Our guns are being taken because politicians are scared of the people and no, we should arm ourselves to the Nines and I also feel that some felons should be given gun rights back after a certain time length and to show that they have stayed out of trouble
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          • What a right-wing idiotic comment. For goodness sake, guns don't solve anything. BAN THEM.
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            • That's sad that you are not safe and that your right to protect yourself and your family is someone strangers hands .Disgusting .
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              • Less people are visiting the usa from aus now. Too expensive. Our dollar$$$ is much lower now. Usa is much too violent.
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                • NO NO NO! The government should never be allowed to take our Constitutional Rights away!
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                  • The second amendment is the least of your worries at the moment....Trump is the major one...stay tuned....
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                    • The Democrats are the biggest worry with all the protesting and destruction!
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                  • no the constitution is the law of the land if you don'tlike it you can leave
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                    • To take a look at the aggressive of people, it's not good to allow it by government rather than military personnel
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                      • I'm sure the founding fathers never thought some of the constitution would last forever. How many gun deaths have you had so far this year, America?
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                        • Don't care . The USA is a lost cause and a societal failure. If you want to put bullets in your children, who am I to say it's wrong.....
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                          • If Trump was half the man he says he is, as President,he should make the best Amendment Ever. Make New Gun Laws like Australia. After all he nearly got taken out by one, that he allows to be sold at a Delicatessen, rather than a Water Pistol 😂😂😂😂😂
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                            • We are allowed to use force to restrain people who do enter our home's, but not excessive force. That's why we have great watch dogs
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                              • I own cat's and no guns but if someone entered my home when not wanted , I would do everything in my power to KILL that person. DONE DEAL!
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                              • 2025Terry 1550339
                                You sound like a thug yourself. Bad mentality
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                            • No one should have any Firearms that has a Criminal record for a start. There is no need for anyone to own a firearm that doesn't work in Law Enforcement or a Security Officer or a Registered Collector or a licenced hunter or a Farmer. Here in Australia we don't have kids Murdered that are going to school or at school. One trip to America I got stopped by Police in Ca, the first thing the officer said was, how many guns do you have and where are they ? The other officer had his gun in his hand. I said "We are Aussies why would we want guns ? He said "your not from Texas then" I said "We are from Australia we don't have guns" The 2nd Officer put his gun away. The issue was the number plates on the hire car were from Texas.
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                              • wow scary stuf..n ppl wonder why USA is not my preferred holiday stop.
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                              • That's what happens when you go to liberal sh it hole state with conservative plates on your license! It's because of all the illegals and criminals that are allowed to live free and not in prison in liberal states! The cops are scared!
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                              • what if you like to hunt for food
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                              • Terry 1550339Missy Wyld
                                The US is just as safe as anywhere else, do leave other peoples property alone, it's really simple respect.
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                            • Well I live in Australia, our gun laws are very strict. I don't want to live in a place like America, walk into a shop and buy a gun with no licence or experience. I'm so glad Australia has the laws we do.
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                              • Welcome to Australia
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                                • I would use a bat and or my bicycle chain with a heavy lock on it if they came into my house.
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                                  • I'd back the gun to beat your chain and bat
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                                • Another shooting in America today. People injured. Rambo sure does reside in America.
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                                  • It would of been a different nation if the USA hadn't of won the 1776 war against the British government. Look how Australia turned out considering most of the colonial people were convicts The USA think they are respected by people in other countries, but they are badly mistaken.
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                                    • Talk about minds firmly rooted in the cowboy days. Yes back then of course people had to arm themselves, both as a source of food and for survival. You would think that people have progressed by the 21st century but sadly no. The American obsession with bearing arms is not only outdated and old fashioned, but in wake of so many mass shooting deaths truely unbelievable,
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                                      • Well if dumb liberal prosecutors would stop giving criminals a slap on the wrist and leave them in prison where they belong than law abiding Americans wouldn't have to carry guns to protect themselves from criminals!
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                                    • I would of thought with trump being a victim of an assassin attempt on his life, that he would try to gets some reform going, but the Republican party always supported gun freedom. It's madness, even after what happened to DT.
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                                      • Neither the democrats nor the Republican party wants to really resolve the massive gun problem in America. They are both being controlled by the big arms companies in America. Congress is involved and probably is behind the reluctance to remove the right to bear arms. They need another political party in America to start up and put pressure on both the major parties. The democrats talk big about gun-control, but it's funny how they never do anything about it. Just as useless Obama didn't when he was in power .
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                                        • That kid who shot those kids at the school, his father is also charged with allowing his kid to access a gun. Some parents never learn. American people think you solve problems with guns.
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                                          • New York shooting at a meeting in the city today. Man went shooting up some people.
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                                            • It is ironic, that we justify gun ownership as a necessity to protect our homes.............because the invaders of our sanctuary, have also benefited from the 2nd amendment.
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                                              • That's it in a nutshell John!!
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                                              • Well said!
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                                                • Dear Americans, you have been fooled by companies / organisations/ associations/ politicians profiting from you by using an amendment setup in a completely different era. When the amendment was made, machine gun was not widely available to 18yo kids. These evil companies/politicians/ associations have used (and misinterpreted) the amendment to their favour and funding Hayman island lifestyles for themselves. Stop letting them taking away childhood and parenthood, which are more precious than having a stupid metal under the pillows (and misfiring your loved ones). Nowhere else in the world has more guns than you lot. No country has more people and kids killed by guns and mass shootings. You see the correlation??
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                                                  • That's a load of bs if I have ever heard it! Nowhere including Afghanistan and other Muslim countries, China, Japan, Taiwan, and other terrorists hotbeds! Really you know how stupid you sound!
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                                                • If Biden had been shot...I doubt he would have survived. He would of been too slow to act. Trump was very, very, lucky indeed!
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                                                  • Trump needs to wake up too!
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                                                    • Well, with the shooting on the weekend of Donald Trump, you would think he might want to amend some gun laws after what happened. It nearly took his life. Any man or woman, can get a gun an just go on a shooting spree anywhere in the USA. None of the president's have the guts to change gun laws. If DT gets returned to the Whitehouse, it's doubtful he will doing anything about it. Same as the democrats and they do nothing to stop it either. Both major parties are scared to change the constitution. It's quite bewildering as to why? Why is it harder than stopping abortion? Trump if he really wanted to could limit gun availability, but he has been brainwashed like most Americans. They think this is normal!
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                                                      • If they got rid of the guns then see how much the death rate goes down.
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                                                        • Only in America, bloody cowboys all.
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                                                          • USA you have a right to keep your guns to protect your family, there will always be someone who wants to hurt people. You maybe you need more protection in schools and shopping Malls. If someone wants to get a gun they will find a way to buy one. Don't loose your rights America.
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                                                            • Several cops murdered just the other day. Good old USA!
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                                                              • USA is a totally crazy country where people walk around toting guns in the belief that someone is going to get them. As someone commented below - it was so when people were invading the country and an Indian might object and throw a spear - but today - its like the whole country is at war with itself. Crazy people getting hold of a weapon and shooting up kids at schools and other places. Many deaths caused by kids getting guns out and accidentally shooting themselves or someone else. The only reason this amendment is upheld is for money and profits - companies making and selling guns and ammunition. The whole idea of it does not fit in with a modern world and has only succeeded in making the USA a nation of mad people shooting up others if something doesn't suit them. Mentally deranged people get hold of a gun and do shocking things to school kids and teachers.
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                                                                • And if you are a felon and can’t get your hands on a gun, then you can always use a tariff…
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                                                              • just take a look at the numbers of arms related disasters in the US of A and then reflect. The right to bear arms relates to a bygone era when a red indian was likely to turn up with evil intent.
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                                                                • I don't blame Indians for railing against the invasion of their lives from foreigners taking their land and livelihoods away, and dont think they should be referred to as with evil intent. Who drove them to it? But aside from that, yes protection was needed for that maybe but it seems gun were no solution there either as Indians were experts using bows and quiet surprise, usually when the invaders were drunk and stupidified. To say you need a gun just to walk around your neighborhood is bizarre and ridiculous, when in fact it's the gun toting culture that has created this sense of fear in everyday life. Get rid of the guns and there will be less violence. And machine guns, words cannot describe the stupidity of this, it's all just money making by armoury companies, who don't care how many die from their products
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                                                                • GrommieHelen 1370203
                                                                  by evil intent I meant shoot or scalp or both. If I was on the receiving end, and as I'm not an indian, I would have been on the receiving end, I'd regard that intent as evil. That's not to say the invasion and land confiscation wasn't evil, it certainly was. But that was a different era. There were wars going on in Great Britain at the time, too. The sins of our fathers. Having them wished on people to recompense a current generation who are in some cases 7 generations distant is to rewrite history. My family were hounded out of central Europe 3 generations ago. What show do you think I have of repossessing their farm? Yes.... a spot of perspective.
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                                                              • America has shown the world it's just weak people who need a gun in their hands.
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                                                                • Okay picture this you're standing at the checkout at Walmart or you're checking yourself out at Walmart whichever it is and some idiot comes in there and starts threatening people this that and the other. Would you rather know that you're just going to stand there in the eyes of this Maniac or are you going to be happy that the lady in line behind you is packing and intend to protect herself and others. Well folks I'm the lady standing in line that's packing and I'm here to tell you I know what I would choose. It's unfortunate that we have to feel unsafe in this world today like we do but it has nothing to do with guns it has everything to do with freaking crazy people and their beliefs and whatever I'm just looking out for me and my neighbors.
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                                                                  • Yeah and if those manuals did not have access to guns there wouldn't be the fear
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                                                                • Guns kill. If people didn't have access they would not be able to shoot.
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                                                                  • Weapons DO NOT kill. People do! And reading this discussion. Some knew the truth and some are blind. I know this much de arming the US is impossible! I do my best not to post, as some are just so blinded.
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                                                                    • Make America great again. .. there was nothing great about it ... bad unhealthy food, corporate greed, no healthcare sell yoyr house to get your appendix out or die, huge numbers of mirbidly obese people. Environment destroyed by companies who make poison like glyphosphate to spray on your food then when you get cancer if you've got squillions of dollars for the money hungry overserviced health system, the same chemical companies have got " another poison to trat you with" Workers are the working poor, with poor pay and conditions. Who would want to live in US? I don't see anything great about it.
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                                                                  • It's not the guns killing the people, it's people killing the people. The thing is if we didn't have guns they would find another way to kill somebody it's not the guns! If somebody was going into a shopping mall and staffing everyone and it continually happened. Would you take all our knives away how would we cut our steak? I'm just saying, there's always going to be bad people out there that no matter what you do or how you try to control them they're going to spin off and be crazy. It has nothing to do with guns. And as for the girl, I was raised with guns I respect guns and you ain't taking my gun.
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                                                                    • Not really! It's much easier to kill with a gun than another object. You can do it from a distance with a gun. Another object requires a closer up attack. That's just a lame fkn excuse . AUS has less crime than the USA. Guns are the problem.
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                                                                    • How do you explain the shooting of DT then?
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                                                                  • I don't think you know what you are saying.
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                                                                    • I agree with this. It seems like criminals or anyone with mental illness or anger issue are more likely to commit crimes with guns. Me and my family take gun safety seriously. We have always respected the guns and was taught safety at an early age. We hunt to provide food for our family. The only time guns are taken out is when we practice at the range and hunting season. Also the idea of protecting my family in case of an invasion of our home. People need to realize safety at all times
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                                                                      • 2 wrongs don't make a right.
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                                                                    • We live in the country with wild boar bear coyotes fox raccoons loose dogs and yes the on the run criminal on the loose as I. Three yrs ago in our area hiding In The woods they claimed . I protect my flock of birds my dogs my home n farm equipment and our lives
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                                                                      • Almost the entire planet lives quite happily without needing to own stupid guns. It's just Americans (and even then the minority of them) who still believe they live in the "wild west". 🙄
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                                                                        • I can't find any statistics on the US govt "taking away guns from homes or legal owners" at all. All US Govt have to obey its Constitution! It's like a scare tactic to keep the ignorant in fear and dependent on the speaker of such theories. Yet after a crime scene gets cleared out, or if illegally attained guns are stored in a location, these guns found will get removed. The unfortunate thing is that the guns are being used to kill other Americans whether they are criminals or not. Does the second amendment say anything about ammunition rights or pulling the trigger and see what happens rights?
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                                                                          • Look at the migrant culture and drug culture of the US, then you will know why they have so much crime. I bet the BLACK LIVES MATTER SUPPORT GUNS. Hmm!
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                                                                            • Well a reasonable percentage of these answers are very scary...for a whole range of reasons (God didn't give you those guns by the way...you bought them)..and clearly show that Americans will just carry on shooting each other until there is no-one left..its your call and good luck with that.... sorry to show any concern... or offer up reasons why that might not be a good idea.....you know what you are doing....right?
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                                                                              • Not being an American I cannot possibly comment - however looking from the outside its not very positive.
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                                                                                • Just how many times in your, or your parents lives during your childhood, has you home been invaded? How many times have you, or any member of your family, been confronted inside your home by a person armed with a Military Assualt Weapon? Just what are your Police Forces for if not to protect you? If you are allowed to have a firearm in your home why should you be allowed to carry it with you when you leave home? In what possible way is having a firearm in your possession whilst at the Supermarket, Walmart or anywhere else exercising your Right to protect your Home? take a long, hard look at the Reality of the United States of America and be Honest with yourselves if you have the guts to do so/ America. The Murder capital of the World. How many mass shootings took place across the USA in 2023? How many of them were in people's homes? How many thousands of US Citizens were murdered by people in Schools, Shopping Centres, Churches, Synagogues, Temples, Mosques across the USA in 2023? We have been told that in 2024 already there have been over 20 during the first 22 days of January! Not one of them was committed in or at anyone's Private Home. The 2nd Amendment has been taken out of all proportion to it's orgiginal intent. yes those who live out in the Country, farmers, ranchers etc. they DO Need to have some firearms BUT just how many Mass Killings have been enacted by those living in remote areas? They people there have those firearms for very good, practical reasons and they use them with Intelligence. Does anyone really need an AK47 Military Assault Rifle? Of course they don't and we can Guarantee that if those responsible for the 2nd Amendment had imagined there would ever be guns capable of firing off literally hundreds of rounds per second they would have place a limit of the size, type of firearm US citizens would be allowed to have and made sure that the 2nd also placed a Prohibition on people taking those weapons out of their homes. If you dare, have a look at other countries around the world where gun Ownership is strictly controlled and you have to have a very, very good reason to be allowed to own one. The Crime rates are Lower, the number of Totally Unnecessary Killings of Innocent Children, Women and Men, as we see in their 1000s across the USA, do not happen. Check out Australia, if you dare, there has been One Mass Killing in that country in modern times. The then Government acted immediately to bring in possibly the strictest Gun Laws in the World. Yes, they have crime. Yes, they have gangland killings but there are very, very few of them. Private Citizens are not allowed to own firearms without Extraordinarily Good reason. Have a look at the UK. There was a time, not so very long ago, when even the Police were not allowed to carty guns on a day-to-day basis. Having unlimited Rights to have firearms has done nothing to stop Crime in the USA. Check out the Prisons there! Full to overflowing like no other country on Earth. The 2nd Amendment is Destroying the USA.
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                                                                                  • Murder capital alright! Full of thugs!
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                                                                                  • We live in the country with wild boar bear lather coyotes fox raccoons loose dogs and yes the on the run criminal on the loose as I. Three yrs ago in our area hiding I. The woods they claimed . I protect my flock of birds my dogs my home n farm equipment and our lives
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                                                                                  • If you don't already know.. it's stuffed anyway. Citizens shooting each other just like a civil war.
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                                                                                • Stupid American women saying its ok to own guns.
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                                                                                  • I live in the wild west, and it still is, so I feel being able to protect yourself can be necessary at times. I also believe we do not need automatic weapons or any military weapons on our streets. Keep the amendment, but with some reform.
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                                                                                    • The public has no access to ‘automatic’ firearms, those are military use only.
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                                                                                    • Carolyn7 Pkathy b 656074
                                                                                      I know a lot of people on here are from Australia and I'm sure things are different there than in the U.S. Sadly, people do have access to automatic firearms and military grade weapons and use them in violent ways.
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                                                                                    • kathy b 656074Carolyn7 P
                                                                                      Who has access to full autos? Sub-machine guns banned 1937–automatics banned 1986.
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                                                                                    • kathy b 656074Carolyn7 P
                                                                                      Who? Be specific.
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                                                                                    • Carolyn7 Pkathy b 656074
                                                                                      The Las Vegas shooter used a military grade gun. A ban was imposed by the feds on military grade guns which would have not been done if regular citizens did not have them. Look up U.S. military weapons used in crimes. Fun reading.
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                                                                                    • kathy b 656074Carolyn7 P
                                                                                      Those people are criminals in illegal possession of military grade weapons which are trafficked by criminal gun runners world-wide.
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                                                                                  • ffs its an amendment its been changed before its in the title and tbh I think its been proved in the last few yrs that gun laws need to be amended in the usa..... ps criminals dont abide by the said laws anyway and neither do nutters coz the thing about crazy people is that they dont think they are crazy. as for protection in the home thats crap thieves in your home are there to steal stuff and if you are so het up on material things that you believe you need a firearm then good luck... get a dog or a shitload of geese they will let you know before you do . shut up America the most corrupt country in the world land of the free until you disagree
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                                                                                    • Women have been raped, in their homes and without a firearm, a woman stands no chance of survival against an intruder. I live in the real world where home invaders aren’t polite petty thieves. You are free to stand unarmed if you choose.
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                                                                                    • phillHkathy b 656074
                                                                                      thats not what i meant i meant that criminals dont have legal guns anyway so no matter how many laws you have dont matter as cims dont get legal firearms generally so they dont play by the rules anyhow and yes women should be able to protect themselveswith you on that girl always even if its just pepperspray
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                                                                                    • 2025kathy b 656074
                                                                                      But the more guns= deaths. No Matter the cause.
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                                                                                    • A woman with a canister of pepper spray — my money’s on her attacker.
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                                                                                    • 2025kathy b 656074
                                                                                      House alarms help, as do CTV cameras. Dogs.
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                                                                                  • God didn't write your Constitution. No such thing as GOD given!
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                                                                                    • Our rights as Americans are God given rights!
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                                                                                      • what a stupid phrase God given rights..... Get real GOD is not real its man made and the stupidity and pain caused by humans that believe in an invisible all seeing deity is half the problem i personally dream of the day when humans no longer believe in gods
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                                                                                    • No they shouldn't punish responsible gun owners for irresponsible gun owners stupidity.
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                                                                                      • Perhaps the right people never seem to have the guns. It's odd tho!
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                                                                                        • As you now have the right to arm yourself, how is it that so many people are getting shot. We hear of these massacres taking place, surely as soon as the first one or two people are shot someone would pull out their trusty weapon and deal with them.
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                                                                                          • Another gun massacre in the USA. What a magnificent country! Omg.
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                                                                                            • The constitution was written back when there were cattle rustlers and wagon robbers. People were given the right to own a gun to defend their life and/or property against these things. How people still use this right to excuse the mess that the U.S. is in now is bewildering. Can they not see what the rest of the world does? Kids killing kids, exes killing exes out of jealousy, people stressing over issues they cannot accept and they handle their anger with guns, toddlers killing Mom through the driver's seat when she finds a gun in Mom's purse laying on the back seat. Gun deaths are the number one killer of children in the U.S. Not cancer/disease, car accidents or anything else you'd likely guess. It's guns killing your people, including thousand kids a year. These aren't from people breaking into your homes and just killing them. Many are from your 'protection' not being locked up properly and kids find them and use them. Again, I say this amendment needs to be amended again so your children have a chance at a future. Open your eyes and see what the rest of us see.
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                                                                                              • There are nations without any gun ownership restrictions, you’re buying into the hysteria of those wanting to rule over a defenseless populace.
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                                                                                              • 2025kathy b 656074
                                                                                                Aus is ok
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                                                                                              • What Teri says is true. It is one huge, violent mess here and I don't think anyone knows how to go about fixing it. Part of the problem is, that Americans will not be put in a defenseless position. The crime here is way too out of hand and violent. The good guys have guns to defend themselves and their property, the bad guys have guns to take our lives and our property. A lot needs to come down to law enforcement doing a better job and harsher sentencing for crimes committed.
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                                                                                              • Teri 1282723Carolyn7 P
                                                                                                Amen.
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                                                                                              • We live in the country with wild boar bear lather coyotes fox raccoons loose dogs and yes the on the run criminal on the loose as I. Three yrs ago in our area hiding I. The woods they claimed to protect my flock of birds my dogs my home n farm equipment And our lives
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                                                                                              • People still have ranches that cows and horses get rustled as do chickens too
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                                                                                              • Teri 1282723Judy CooplandiaQueen
                                                                                                Please read beyond my first 2 or 3 sentences in my original answer.
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                                                                                              • Elizabeth J 447888Judy CooplandiaQueen
                                                                                                I am pretty sure that farmers in Australia can legally own guns. If you live on a ranch that could be written into the amendment.
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                                                                                            • The only country in the world that has regular school shootings. What a fkn mess!
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                                                                                              • Wrong! Stop repeating that stupid mantra that some have mentioned. Temptation kills ! If you give them the means them they will. And what about those who are mentally unstable? Obviously your not Australian! God has nothing to do with gun creation , stupid. Only man created them as they saw a essential need Without guns there would be no wars. Tho, they have advantages. I've seen a gun up close as my dad had one when I was a young kid. Australia has very few random shootings compared to stupid America. Your country is a danger even to tourists from other countries. You should be ashamed to be American! No one is saying farmers and shooters cannot have guns. In Australia they have to be licensed. It's just that people aren't allowed to have guns for self defence. Your another American without a brain. Fo! Imagine if your ever a victim or a family member. I bet you would change your mind then! Grow some brains and balls for that matter!
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                                                                                                • No. Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people. There's man responsible gun owners and they shouldn't be punished because of teens and adults or criminals get guns. My husband is a responsible gun owner. People fail to realize that the rights we have in the bill of rights and constitution are rights given to us by our creator.
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                                                                                                  • Rubbish
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                                                                                                  • Hair dryers don't kill snowmen snowmen kill snowmen
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                                                                                                  • Where in the bible (or Koran or Dianetics) does it say that God have given us the right to have guns? The bill of rights and constitution were both done by men (don't think there were any women deciding). Was God in one of the meetings but not credited?
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                                                                                                  • what are you doing out in the snow with an electrically operated hair dryer?
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                                                                                                  • APBGrommie
                                                                                                    It was a cartoon by Bizzaro.com..I love it so much I've got a copy hanging up on the wall in my office!
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                                                                                                • YES
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                                                                                                  • Don't worry. The government won't try to take your gun until you use it to commit a crime and get caught.
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                                                                                                    • HELL NO! Guns don't kill people, people kill people whose finger is on the trigger. There's good law abiding people who shouldn't be punished because of irresponsible people/parents, teenagers or criminals.
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                                                                                                      • Another man on a shooting rampage the other day.
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                                                                                                    • I think the mass murders in American schools etc would indicate that something should be done over there. Well unless you think thoughts and prayers are enough to counter that....
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                                                                                                      • Something definitely needs to be done. Building safe classroom shelters, metal detectors, teachers who want to carry should be able to do so and armed law enforcement on duty during school hours. Any of these are better than nothing being done which is what is happening right now, nothing. The attempt to install metal detectors was only met with complaints that it took longer to get in the building.
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                                                                                                      • ‘“something should be done over there”’…you mean forced disarmament? We have twelve times the population of Australia and a sea of privately owned guns; if gun ‘crime’ was really a problem, half the population would’ve been wiped out LONG ago. School shootings exist because anti-gun advocates refuse to install effective security measures and because the mental health of youth in schools isn’t addressed even when the teen shooters are obviously in need of psychiatric intervention and removal from their schools. I will never allow myself to be enslaved by fear or tolerate those who would cower in submission to it.
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                                                                                                      • Biscuitkathy b 656074
                                                                                                        Give it a rest. Gun crime is a real problem in America and y’all doing your best to wipe yourselves out.
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                                                                                                      • kathy b 656074 does have a point - all primary school kids should carry machine guns as an effective security measure!
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                                                                                                      • kathy b 656074roger b 167654
                                                                                                        I said no such thing nor did I imply that.
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                                                                                                      • 2025kathy b 656074
                                                                                                        It's a fact that guns are dangerous. You have too many younger people dying. No excuse!
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                                                                                                      • 2025kathy b 656074
                                                                                                        Many of them are probably using drugs. That's not mental health, it's the drugs that are causing that. Even prescription drugs can do it.
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                                                                                                      • Carolyn7 Pkathy b 656074
                                                                                                        nor did I say anything about forced disarmament.
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                                                                                                      • Christine M 323842kathy b 656074
                                                                                                        School should not need bloody security measures implemented.
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                                                                                                      • Pop. of USA in 2024 is recorded as being 345,914,439. Per Washington Post, Sept. 2024, there were 23 mass shootings. ‘Mass shooting’ describes killing four or more people. That’s .00000027% of the total population.
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                                                                                                      • Grommiekathy b 656074
                                                                                                        the stats don't matter if you are the one on the receiving end of a bullet
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                                                                                                    • I wanna live long enough to not be currently involved in 9 different wars to date April 25th 2023
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                                                                                                      • Violence begets violence ! If I were a burglar likely to face an armed homeowner, I would likely arm myself. Then you have two nervous and trigger happy folks face off. Not going to end well for anyone. So unless and your extended family wish to become JUST ANOTHER STATISTIC in the next mass shooting, take a leaf out of Jacinda Ardern’s book. She banned assault rifles etc within a week after the Christchurch massacre. I believe that was the right thing to do. And I think all law abiding citizens agreed.
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                                                                                                        • How do you explain that there are only 52 deaths a year in Britain and over 11,000 in the USA. The way forward is to negate the trigger where everyone thinks they can have guns.
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                                                                                                        • Land of sheep.
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                                                                                                        • roger b 167654kathy b 656074
                                                                                                          NZ is the land of sheep, but I’d sooner be a live sheep that a dead sheep
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                                                                                                      • People find other ways like using knifes or poisoning people!!!have you read the book 101 ways to kill a person!!!Now this shit occurs everyday it's just never spoken about!!! People survive off taking another person's life especially in very poor countries!!!as we mix be mindful that different cultures have different ways of surviving and something that you own that's small to you is money for someone in need!!!a t-shirt means a lot to a homeless person or pair of shoes.People eat rubbish from bins to feed themselves.People commit crimes to survive.
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                                                                                                        • 44000 people died from gun violence in your country last year with nearly 700 mass shootings. There were 202 shootings in schools. From 2013 to 2021 USA averaged 87 shootings a year in schools. In 3 weeks in 2023 you have had 39 mass shootings and more than 1200 deaths by shooting. You say the Second Amendment gives you the right to arm yourself but the repercussions of this so called right is horrendous.
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                                                                                                          • Your statistics are not accurate or reliable.
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                                                                                                          • Linda CPeter K 1143976
                                                                                                            From American site so I think they are pretty accurate. If you think they are wrong check them and see for yourself what the figures are. Even if they are 1/2 what I have shown it is too many.
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                                                                                                          • Do more research. And by research, I don't mean take the first Google result that confirms your bias.
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                                                                                                          • 2025Peter K 1143976
                                                                                                            Stupid comments!
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                                                                                                          • Linda CPeter K 1143976
                                                                                                            I am not bias just horrified. I hear it on news reports both USA and ours constantly about school shootings, gun violence and the numbers I have shown. To think people are so obsessed about the right to carry arms not caring about the consequences. It would be great if everyone who owned a gun was responsible. The ABC for instance reported almost 5000 people had died by gun violence so far this year (Feb 24.2024) and this does not include suicides.
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                                                                                                        • Wake up to yourself! What century do you think you live in? You can't reason with idiots so therefore guns need to be not given out to anyone that wants one.
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                                                                                                          • No the government shouldn't be allowed to take that right from us. Guns don't kill people unless there's a person behind the trigger. There should be stricter background checks and the ATF should be doing their job in getting guns off the streets and out of the criminals. Responsible people/gun owners shouldn't be punished for those who are criminals or irresponsible.
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                                                                                                            • What about 6 year old and younger children shooting people or teens in schools going around killing teachers and other students. You have an horrendous record for deaths by guns. Why would you really care about an amendment that allows this to continue.
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                                                                                                            • Linda CLinda C
                                                                                                              Criminals will always have guns but they usually just use them on fellow criminals. People with mental issues do not have restrictions and just go and get a gun so easily and automatic repeat rifles etc. and then wreak havoc killing innocent people. When I was in USA I was in the centre of the country and all these huge pick up trucks I suppose you call them had guns on racks at the back window. Doors unlocked etc. and not just 1 or 2 cars but a whole bunch of them. Did not feel safe at all.
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                                                                                                            • 2025Linda C
                                                                                                              I think its the mentality of some americans they just dont get it, and I dont know if they were born stupified or what! They have a me first attitude and so stuff their fellow man.
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                                                                                                            • 6-y.o. aren’t permitted to own guns and gun owners aren’t responsible for poor parenting that allowed for a 6-y.o. to access the gun.
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                                                                                                            • Linda Ckathy b 656074
                                                                                                              Of course not but it shows how easily it is for them to get them. Yes poor parenting obviously in this case but also poor controls in general. Too many guns laying around and killing too many people. I would not like to be the one to tell a parent their child was killed by a gun at school because no one wanted to lose their right to have one.
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                                                                                                            • For God’s sake, 6-y.o. aren’t permitted to have legal access to firearms.
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                                                                                                            • Linda Ckathy b 656074
                                                                                                              I never said they did. I said they got a gun that obviously was one of their parents guns left lying around or the child knew how to access it. I said it shows though how easily they can get them. Poor parenting, poor controls, whatever. Your USA history of gun deaths is horrific. A sad state of affairs no matter how you look it but no one seems to want to address the elephant in the room.
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                                                                                                            • 2025kathy b 656074
                                                                                                              kids have gained access and accidentally shot others. So you think all parents are responsible? Are you mad?
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                                                                                                            • You’re buying into a false narrative. We have more guns than people and if we were all trigger happy our population decline from homicide would reflect that which it doesn’t. The anti-gunners, anti-self defense are behind this propaganda you consume.
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                                                                                                          • Actually you lot have had that wrong since forever and I’m not even a Yank. The NRA has dined out in that supposed provision when it’s not even correct, and how you could even want arms when they have already taken so many of your brightest and best. “As you live by the sword so you will die by it.”
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                                                                                                            • England banned firearm ownership and KNIFE crimes replaced the guns. Now, knee-jerkers there are calling for banning ALL knives, including butter knives. By contrast to this stupidness are the criminal element who know how to fashion a shiv from plastic utensils. Nobody is forcing you to defend yourself under any circumstance nor should anybody have the right to deprive you of the right to do so.
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                                                                                                            • roger b 167654kathy b 656074
                                                                                                              While it is true that firearm ownership was banned after the Dunblane school shooting (shows that had the courage to do something about it), it is erroneous to claim that knife killing replaced it. Sure, knife killings have gone up due to population increases and general increase in violence, but they are still under the proportion of US knife killings.
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                                                                                                          • I know what you’re thinking.? Did he fire 6 shots or only 5 ? Well to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself But being as this a 44 magnum the most powerful handgun in the world and would blow your head clean off you’ve got to ask yourself one question do you feel lucky we’ll do ya punk.. now Do you all think that this would ever have been said without the right to bear arms? Americans talk about gun control every time there is a school shooting. The reality is it will never happen. Who suffers ? The victims families. We had port authur that changed Australia’s innocence to mass shootings to an end forever. But it also bought sweeping changes to our gun laws. Thousands of illegal guns were handed in. This was the best thing that could ever happen. The right to bear arms has a price. Ask the victims families. Is it worth the sacrifices these families made. More guns won’t fix the problem, if you think it will you’re just kidding yourself. Don’t forget to check if you’ve got that fully loaded automatic hand gun in the glove box while your taking your kids to base ball practice.
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                                                                                                            • No such thing as a ‘“fully automatic handgun”’.
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                                                                                                            • Biscuitkathy b 656074
                                                                                                              Yes there is.
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                                                                                                            • Name it.
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                                                                                                            • Lee b 979050kathy b 656074
                                                                                                              the human finger
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                                                                                                            • roger b 167654kathy b 656074
                                                                                                              Isn’t the glock 18 fully automatic?
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                                                                                                            • Biscuitroger b 167654
                                                                                                              Yes.
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                                                                                                            • Biscuitkathy b 656074
                                                                                                              G18 for starters.
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                                                                                                            • kathy b 656074roger b 167654
                                                                                                              That weapon is NOT accessible for private citizens.
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                                                                                                            • roger b 167654kathy b 656074
                                                                                                              but that is NOT what you stated - you stated 'No such thing as a "fully automatic handgun" - which I proved was incorrect.
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                                                                                                          • The second Amendment will never be taken away. The process is NOT easy to remove an Amendment.
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                                                                                                            • You can't predict the future. Piss off back to the land of the murderers then.
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                                                                                                          • And we need to keep it that way!
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                                                                                                            • no
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                                                                                                              • Theres no guarantee that your life will be spared. Keep wishing!
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                                                                                                                • No, just NO!
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                                                                                                                  • In my 56yrs I can happily say ,never seen a gun.No I don't work in PEST CONTROL nor on a farm so have no requirements for one .If I did need to own one for my work I would be happy to get that psyche assessment that so many aggro people on here clearly need ...just glad ain't living Next door to u and your precious revolvers
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                                                                                                                    • Your argument is vacuous. And the proof is in just about every other country on the planet. Something 'Americans' seem to like to ignore in their pro-gun salivating frenzies.
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                                                                                                                        • Yep, if guns were taken, there would be more crimes, because then only the criminals would have them. The solution is easier access to guns. School shootings would be a thing of the past if you could deter the shooter by arming every student and teacher. Tubs of loaded guns freely available at the entrance of malls, nightclubs, cinemas, festivals, hell any public place where people use their second amendment right to kill innocents, would enable every law abiding citizen to stop the criminals with the guns dead in their tracks.
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                                                                                                                          • Criminals do have them. No you are so wrong!
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                                                                                                                          • The NRA would love that plan.
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                                                                                                                          • Only free guns? Why not RPG's and the like?😁
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                                                                                                                          • Is this meant to be satirical?
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                                                                                                                        • No
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                                                                                                                          • I believe if the British hadn't of lost that war to the Usa a very long time ago now... America might never have been a republic. They would instead have been under the monarchy of the Uk, like Australia and Nz are. Despite all the faults that go with the royals of the uk... they still provided a stable democracy for those in Commonwealth nations. They might be similar to Australia with a more peaceful and sensible outlook on democracy. Tho that is changing somewhat these days with the leftards running the show.
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                                                                                                                            • Is it 'normal' to have the ability to murder your neighbour if you are pissed off? Hell, that appears to be the AMERICAN WAY.
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                                                                                                                              • Its the COWBOY WAY!
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                                                                                                                            • Well you might get a brave president who does exactly that one day. I hope it happens!
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                                                                                                                              • Hi Vickie. In Australia we to have had milti shootings but these are far between we don't have your passion to protect our selves with leathal force we are able to own guns bust all must be registered and for use only at rifle ranges that we are members off as well our farmers may be armed for use there but just step back look around some people have multiple guns why when one will do this job of protection .I think when everybody has a gun in a holster and on their body this that it is a deterrent doesn't hold up. I am not saying you should ,nthave the right to bear a gun not a armory and hidden is not like being armed at all times
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                                                                                                                                • It’s an archaic law that has no place today!
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                                                                                                                                  • for what do you need guns
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                                                                                                                                    • The one thing forgotten in all this...that guns are worth billions of dollars. So certain companies are making absolute fortunes on selling guns in America. I bet many aren't made in America tho. Guns are like drugs, there is too much money in it to outlaw them guns. Got to tick the billions over every year.
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                                                                                                                                      • Thank goodness we don't have that in our constitution and we have very little gun crime. I don't know about anyone else but I have NO need for a gun.
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                                                                                                                                        • I hate guns. That’s all I can say.
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                                                                                                                                          • She should of wrote it a bit different...as i didn't get her meaning at first. It should have read; Should our government be allowed to change our second admendment? I hope they get rid of it. Also i remember...when a Australian woman, a few years back, was shot mistakenly, by a black , gun-ho american cop. She was living with her american husband at the time. She unfortunately died. Even tourists and others occasionally get killed or.. murdered in America.
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                                                                                                                                            • no it should stand as is
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                                                                                                                                              • Yet another Australian here...I see both sides of the argument and it's really none of my business. What I wanted to say though, from an outside perspective, I think poverty might be a driving issue behind so much violence over there and it can stem from uncomfortable circumstances to a certain degree. Much of this seems baked into your culture going back long ago. It's quite fascinating. I don't particularly trust government but things are not so bad in Australia without being able to walk into a store and buy something that is very effective in ending someone's life. There aren't thugs doing home invasions left right and center, although it does happen from time to time and even so that's usually people too caught up in the drug game. But yeah, it's none of my business what you guys do anyway. Can't pretend to know what it's like living there but are acceptable stricter laws possible? Some kind of compromise that will allow you to own guns yet save some lives? I'm probably ranting.
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                                                                                                                                                • Criminals do not care about laws and disarming legal owners would only embolden criminals, crime would be a nightmare requiring a military presence in the streets which carries a lot of red tape before they’d be called upon. Only rich bureaucrats receive protection in America.
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                                                                                                                                                • 2025kathy b 656074
                                                                                                                                                  There's no guarantee that you would be protected even with a gun. The other person could shoot first. Catch you off guard. Why do you think many other countries have less murderers than the us? Because of gun control, that's why.
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