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Should our government be allowed to take our 2nd amendment?
Vickie S05-Dec-22
In short, the Second Amendment states that as an American citizen, you have the individual right to arm yourself. The amendment also firmly establishes that the government cannot infringe on that right. Why should our guns be taken when there is so much more going on in the world? I think if our guns were taken, we would have more crimes. We would not be able to protect ourselves in our homes. We would have people coming on in our homes, and we would have no one to stop them.
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  • Danielle R 478487
    Sorry,I can't comment on gun laws outside of my own country. Australian law is vastly different.
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    • Terry 1550339
      Our guns are being taken because politicians are scared of the people and no, we should arm ourselves to the Nines and I also feel that some felons should be given gun rights back after a certain time length and to show that they have stayed out of trouble
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      • Jennifer H 722364
        That's sad that you are not safe and that your right to protect yourself and your family is someone strangers hands .Disgusting .
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        • APB
          The second amendment is the least of your worries at the moment....Trump is the major one...stay tuned....
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          • Lawrence 1262145
            no the constitution is the law of the land if you don'tlike it you can leave
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            • Grommie
              I'm sure the founding fathers never thought some of the constitution would last forever. How many gun deaths have you had so far this year, America?
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              • Deborah 1622029
                If Trump was half the man he says he is, as President,he should make the best Amendment Ever. Make New Gun Laws like Australia. After all he nearly got taken out by one, that he allows to be sold at a Delicatessen, rather than a Water Pistol 😂😂😂😂😂
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                • Deborah 1622029
                  We are allowed to use force to restrain people who do enter our home's, but not excessive force. That's why we have great watch dogs
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                  • Terry 1550339
                    I own cat's and no guns but if someone entered my home when not wanted , I would do everything in my power to KILL that person. DONE DEAL!
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                • Rabbitohs
                  No one should have any Firearms that has a Criminal record for a start. There is no need for anyone to own a firearm that doesn't work in Law Enforcement or a Security Officer or a Registered Collector or a licenced hunter or a Farmer. Here in Australia we don't have kids Murdered that are going to school or at school. One trip to America I got stopped by Police in Ca, the first thing the officer said was, how many guns do you have and where are they ? The other officer had his gun in his hand. I said "We are Aussies why would we want guns ? He said "your not from Texas then" I said "We are from Australia we don't have guns" The 2nd Officer put his gun away. The issue was the number plates on the hire car were from Texas.
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                  • Missy Wyld
                    wow scary stuf..n ppl wonder why USA is not my preferred holiday stop.
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                  • Terry 1550339
                    what if you like to hunt for food
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                  • Terry 1550339Missy Wyld
                    The US is just as safe as anywhere else, do leave other peoples property alone, it's really simple respect.
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                • Deborah 1622029
                  Well I live in Australia, our gun laws are very strict. I don't want to live in a place like America, walk into a shop and buy a gun with no licence or experience. I'm so glad Australia has the laws we do.
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                  • The ghost
                    Welcome to Australia
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                    • Lawrence 1262145
                      I would use a bat and or my bicycle chain with a heavy lock on it if they came into my house.
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                      • Grommie
                        I'd back the gun to beat your chain and bat
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                    • Anna Rogers
                      Talk about minds firmly rooted in the cowboy days. Yes back then of course people had to arm themselves, both as a source of food and for survival. You would think that people have progressed by the 21st century but sadly no. The American obsession with bearing arms is not only outdated and old fashioned, but in wake of so many mass shooting deaths truely unbelievable,
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                      • John 1537384
                        It is ironic, that we justify gun ownership as a necessity to protect our homes.............because the invaders of our sanctuary, have also benefited from the 2nd amendment.
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                        • APB
                          That's it in a nutshell John!!
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                        • james 1553922
                          The mis-application of the 14th Amendment to people as persons, which are foreigners on American Soil. During Lincolns time a Scottish Company was smuggled into America under fraud. Everyone was kidnapped on paper. Learn about the strawman trust. There is a way out, but do you even care about not being an American in the records?
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                          • PT
                            Dear Americans, you have been fooled by companies / organisations/ associations/ politicians profiting from you by using an amendment setup in a completely different era. When the amendment was made, machine gun was not widely available to 18yo kids. These evil companies/politicians/ associations have used (and misinterpreted) the amendment to their favour and funding Hayman island lifestyles for themselves. Stop letting them taking away childhood and parenthood, which are more precious than having a stupid metal under the pillows (and misfiring your loved ones). Nowhere else in the world has more guns than you lot. No country has more people and kids killed by guns and mass shootings. You see the correlation??
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                            • Gaza
                              Only in America, bloody cowboys all.
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                              • JOHN 1524115
                                Very Short, because your precious 2nd Amendment is actually quite a long statement. Are you the member of a well regulated militia? (and I'm not talking about camouflage wearing rednecks) Do you have enough shot and ball for the field (notice, no mention of magazine fed assault rifles) Should I go on?
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                                • Linda 1523747
                                  USA you have a right to keep your guns to protect your family, there will always be someone who wants to hurt people. You maybe you need more protection in schools and shopping Malls. If someone wants to get a gun they will find a way to buy one. Don't loose your rights America.
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                                  • Helen 1370203
                                    USA is a totally crazy country where people walk around toting guns in the belief that someone is going to get them. As someone commented below - it was so when people were invading the country and an Indian might object and throw a spear - but today - its like the whole country is at war with itself. Crazy people getting hold of a weapon and shooting up kids at schools and other places. Many deaths caused by kids getting guns out and accidentally shooting themselves or someone else. The only reason this amendment is upheld is for money and profits - companies making and selling guns and ammunition. The whole idea of it does not fit in with a modern world and has only succeeded in making the USA a nation of mad people shooting up others if something doesn't suit them. Mentally deranged people get hold of a gun and do shocking things to school kids and teachers.
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                                    • Pato Lo Duck
                                      And if you are a felon and can’t get your hands on a gun, then you can always use a tariff…
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                                  • Grommie
                                    just take a look at the numbers of arms related disasters in the US of A and then reflect. The right to bear arms relates to a bygone era when a red indian was likely to turn up with evil intent.
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                                    • Helen 1370203
                                      I don't blame Indians for railing against the invasion of their lives from foreigners taking their land and livelihoods away, and dont think they should be referred to as with evil intent. Who drove them to it? But aside from that, yes protection was needed for that maybe but it seems gun were no solution there either as Indians were experts using bows and quiet surprise, usually when the invaders were drunk and stupidified. To say you need a gun just to walk around your neighborhood is bizarre and ridiculous, when in fact it's the gun toting culture that has created this sense of fear in everyday life. Get rid of the guns and there will be less violence. And machine guns, words cannot describe the stupidity of this, it's all just money making by armoury companies, who don't care how many die from their products
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                                    • GrommieHelen 1370203
                                      by evil intent I meant shoot or scalp or both. If I was on the receiving end, and as I'm not an indian, I would have been on the receiving end, I'd regard that intent as evil. That's not to say the invasion and land confiscation wasn't evil, it certainly was. But that was a different era. There were wars going on in Great Britain at the time, too. The sins of our fathers. Having them wished on people to recompense a current generation who are in some cases 7 generations distant is to rewrite history. My family were hounded out of central Europe 3 generations ago. What show do you think I have of repossessing their farm? Yes.... a spot of perspective.
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                                  • Alice 1483185
                                    Okay picture this you're standing at the checkout at Walmart or you're checking yourself out at Walmart whichever it is and some idiot comes in there and starts threatening people this that and the other. Would you rather know that you're just going to stand there in the eyes of this Maniac or are you going to be happy that the lady in line behind you is packing and intend to protect herself and others. Well folks I'm the lady standing in line that's packing and I'm here to tell you I know what I would choose. It's unfortunate that we have to feel unsafe in this world today like we do but it has nothing to do with guns it has everything to do with freaking crazy people and their beliefs and whatever I'm just looking out for me and my neighbors.
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                                    • Helen 1370203
                                      Yeah and if those manuals did not have access to guns there wouldn't be the fear
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                                  • Peter T 100083
                                    Weapons DO NOT kill. People do! And reading this discussion. Some knew the truth and some are blind. I know this much de arming the US is impossible! I do my best not to post, as some are just so blinded.
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                                    • Helen 1370203
                                      Make America great again. .. there was nothing great about it ... bad unhealthy food, corporate greed, no healthcare sell yoyr house to get your appendix out or die, huge numbers of mirbidly obese people. Environment destroyed by companies who make poison like glyphosphate to spray on your food then when you get cancer if you've got squillions of dollars for the money hungry overserviced health system, the same chemical companies have got " another poison to trat you with" Workers are the working poor, with poor pay and conditions. Who would want to live in US? I don't see anything great about it.
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                                  • Alice 1483185
                                    It's not the guns killing the people, it's people killing the people. The thing is if we didn't have guns they would find another way to kill somebody it's not the guns! If somebody was going into a shopping mall and staffing everyone and it continually happened. Would you take all our knives away how would we cut our steak? I'm just saying, there's always going to be bad people out there that no matter what you do or how you try to control them they're going to spin off and be crazy. It has nothing to do with guns. And as for the girl, I was raised with guns I respect guns and you ain't taking my gun.
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                                    • Lisa J 1255260
                                      Here's another point I do not like having consequences for what someone else's does put on me criminals are going to be criminals no matter what do not make honest abiding citizens pay for other people's crimes that's wrong you know maybe if I went stole a car and you're going to pay for it no no no no no it's funny Taiwan might get invaded they told all their citizens to get their guns and start practicing you know what happens if that happens here some guys just parachute into our country to start just mob shooting people you're going to wish you had something to help that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard people need to pull their heads out of their ass because I just can't see where they're going with this if you don't like guns don't own one then you could be your own solution but don't try taking my rights that's just not the correct way about going and punishing other people for somebody else why don't you go serve their jail time then
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                                      • Lisa J 1255260
                                        OMG take one they're going to take them all are you kidding me you're out of your mind the whole reason we have it is to keep the government out of controlling our lives like a communist I don't know about you but I like to feel protected when someone's coming at me or my family you know how you think those Jews felt I bet you they wish they all had guns I don't care what amendment is they are not to take any of them that is not how it works that is so wrong although right now the media and how they censor always shows and pushes for whatever agenda they want they don't show all sides of story people need investigate find podcasts do something because if you just believe the news you're mental I hate to tell you but there's something wrong common Sense will tell you or find God
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                                        • robin 1465736
                                          I agree with this. It seems like criminals or anyone with mental illness or anger issue are more likely to commit crimes with guns. Me and my family take gun safety seriously. We have always respected the guns and was taught safety at an early age. We hunt to provide food for our family. The only time guns are taken out is when we practice at the range and hunting season. Also the idea of protecting my family in case of an invasion of our home. People need to realize safety at all times
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                                          • Judy CooplandiaQueen
                                            We live in the country with wild boar bear coyotes fox raccoons loose dogs and yes the on the run criminal on the loose as I. Three yrs ago in our area hiding In The woods they claimed . I protect my flock of birds my dogs my home n farm equipment and our lives
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                                            • Andrew C 287196
                                              Almost the entire planet lives quite happily without needing to own stupid guns. It's just Americans (and even then the minority of them) who still believe they live in the "wild west". 🙄
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                                              • Glenice L 1244113
                                                I can't find any statistics on the US govt "taking away guns from homes or legal owners" at all. All US Govt have to obey its Constitution! It's like a scare tactic to keep the ignorant in fear and dependent on the speaker of such theories. Yet after a crime scene gets cleared out, or if illegally attained guns are stored in a location, these guns found will get removed. The unfortunate thing is that the guns are being used to kill other Americans whether they are criminals or not. Does the second amendment say anything about ammunition rights or pulling the trigger and see what happens rights?
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                                                • APB
                                                  Well a reasonable percentage of these answers are very scary...for a whole range of reasons (God didn't give you those guns by the way...you bought them)..and clearly show that Americans will just carry on shooting each other until there is no-one left..its your call and good luck with that.... sorry to show any concern... or offer up reasons why that might not be a good idea.....you know what you are doing....right?
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                                                  • Stu J
                                                    Not being an American I cannot possibly comment - however looking from the outside its not very positive.
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                                                    • Bugalugs
                                                      Just how many times in your, or your parents lives during your childhood, has you home been invaded? How many times have you, or any member of your family, been confronted inside your home by a person armed with a Military Assualt Weapon? Just what are your Police Forces for if not to protect you? If you are allowed to have a firearm in your home why should you be allowed to carry it with you when you leave home? In what possible way is having a firearm in your possession whilst at the Supermarket, Walmart or anywhere else exercising your Right to protect your Home? take a long, hard look at the Reality of the United States of America and be Honest with yourselves if you have the guts to do so/ America. The Murder capital of the World. How many mass shootings took place across the USA in 2023? How many of them were in people's homes? How many thousands of US Citizens were murdered by people in Schools, Shopping Centres, Churches, Synagogues, Temples, Mosques across the USA in 2023? We have been told that in 2024 already there have been over 20 during the first 22 days of January! Not one of them was committed in or at anyone's Private Home. The 2nd Amendment has been taken out of all proportion to it's orgiginal intent. yes those who live out in the Country, farmers, ranchers etc. they DO Need to have some firearms BUT just how many Mass Killings have been enacted by those living in remote areas? They people there have those firearms for very good, practical reasons and they use them with Intelligence. Does anyone really need an AK47 Military Assault Rifle? Of course they don't and we can Guarantee that if those responsible for the 2nd Amendment had imagined there would ever be guns capable of firing off literally hundreds of rounds per second they would have place a limit of the size, type of firearm US citizens would be allowed to have and made sure that the 2nd also placed a Prohibition on people taking those weapons out of their homes. If you dare, have a look at other countries around the world where gun Ownership is strictly controlled and you have to have a very, very good reason to be allowed to own one. The Crime rates are Lower, the number of Totally Unnecessary Killings of Innocent Children, Women and Men, as we see in their 1000s across the USA, do not happen. Check out Australia, if you dare, there has been One Mass Killing in that country in modern times. The then Government acted immediately to bring in possibly the strictest Gun Laws in the World. Yes, they have crime. Yes, they have gangland killings but there are very, very few of them. Private Citizens are not allowed to own firearms without Extraordinarily Good reason. Have a look at the UK. There was a time, not so very long ago, when even the Police were not allowed to carty guns on a day-to-day basis. Having unlimited Rights to have firearms has done nothing to stop Crime in the USA. Check out the Prisons there! Full to overflowing like no other country on Earth. The 2nd Amendment is Destroying the USA.
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                                                      • Judy CooplandiaQueen
                                                        We live in the country with wild boar bear lather coyotes fox raccoons loose dogs and yes the on the run criminal on the loose as I. Three yrs ago in our area hiding I. The woods they claimed . I protect my flock of birds my dogs my home n farm equipment and our lives
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                                                      • Helen 1370203
                                                        If you don't already know.. it's stuffed anyway. Citizens shooting each other just like a civil war.
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                                                    • Carolyn7 P
                                                      I live in the wild west, and it still is, so I feel being able to protect yourself can be necessary at times. I also believe we do not need automatic weapons or any military weapons on our streets. Keep the amendment, but with some reform.
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                                                      • kathy b 656074
                                                        The public has no access to ‘automatic’ firearms, those are military use only.
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                                                      • Carolyn7 Pkathy b 656074
                                                        I know a lot of people on here are from Australia and I'm sure things are different there than in the U.S. Sadly, people do have access to automatic firearms and military grade weapons and use them in violent ways.
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                                                      • kathy b 656074Carolyn7 P
                                                        Who has access to full autos? Sub-machine guns banned 1937–automatics banned 1986.
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                                                      • kathy b 656074Carolyn7 P
                                                        Who? Be specific.
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                                                      • Carolyn7 Pkathy b 656074
                                                        The Las Vegas shooter used a military grade gun. A ban was imposed by the feds on military grade guns which would have not been done if regular citizens did not have them. Look up U.S. military weapons used in crimes. Fun reading.
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                                                      • kathy b 656074Carolyn7 P
                                                        Those people are criminals in illegal possession of military grade weapons which are trafficked by criminal gun runners world-wide.
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                                                    • phillH
                                                      ffs its an amendment its been changed before its in the title and tbh I think its been proved in the last few yrs that gun laws need to be amended in the usa..... ps criminals dont abide by the said laws anyway and neither do nutters coz the thing about crazy people is that they dont think they are crazy. as for protection in the home thats crap thieves in your home are there to steal stuff and if you are so het up on material things that you believe you need a firearm then good luck... get a dog or a shitload of geese they will let you know before you do . shut up America the most corrupt country in the world land of the free until you disagree
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                                                      • kathy b 656074
                                                        Women have been raped, in their homes and without a firearm, a woman stands no chance of survival against an intruder. I live in the real world where home invaders aren’t polite petty thieves. You are free to stand unarmed if you choose.
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                                                      • phillHkathy b 656074
                                                        thats not what i meant i meant that criminals dont have legal guns anyway so no matter how many laws you have dont matter as cims dont get legal firearms generally so they dont play by the rules anyhow and yes women should be able to protect themselveswith you on that girl always even if its just pepperspray
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                                                      • kathy b 656074phillH
                                                        A woman with a canister of pepper spray — my money’s on her attacker.
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                                                    • Dawn B 1183336
                                                      Our rights as Americans are God given rights!
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                                                      • phillH
                                                        what a stupid phrase God given rights..... Get real GOD is not real its man made and the stupidity and pain caused by humans that believe in an invisible all seeing deity is half the problem i personally dream of the day when humans no longer believe in gods
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                                                    • Dawn B 1183336
                                                      No they shouldn't punish responsible gun owners for irresponsible gun owners stupidity.
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                                                      • John 1362447
                                                        As you now have the right to arm yourself, how is it that so many people are getting shot. We hear of these massacres taking place, surely as soon as the first one or two people are shot someone would pull out their trusty weapon and deal with them.
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                                                        • Teri 1282723
                                                          The constitution was written back when there were cattle rustlers and wagon robbers. People were given the right to own a gun to defend their life and/or property against these things. How people still use this right to excuse the mess that the U.S. is in now is bewildering. Can they not see what the rest of the world does? Kids killing kids, exes killing exes out of jealousy, people stressing over issues they cannot accept and they handle their anger with guns, toddlers killing Mom through the driver's seat when she finds a gun in Mom's purse laying on the back seat. Gun deaths are the number one killer of children in the U.S. Not cancer/disease, car accidents or anything else you'd likely guess. It's guns killing your people, including thousand kids a year. These aren't from people breaking into your homes and just killing them. Many are from your 'protection' not being locked up properly and kids find them and use them. Again, I say this amendment needs to be amended again so your children have a chance at a future. Open your eyes and see what the rest of us see.
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                                                          • kathy b 656074
                                                            There are nations without any gun ownership restrictions, you’re buying into the hysteria of those wanting to rule over a defenseless populace.
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                                                          • Carolyn7 P
                                                            What Teri says is true. It is one huge, violent mess here and I don't think anyone knows how to go about fixing it. Part of the problem is, that Americans will not be put in a defenseless position. The crime here is way too out of hand and violent. The good guys have guns to defend themselves and their property, the bad guys have guns to take our lives and our property. A lot needs to come down to law enforcement doing a better job and harsher sentencing for crimes committed.
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                                                          • Teri 1282723Carolyn7 P
                                                            Amen.
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                                                          • Judy CooplandiaQueen
                                                            We live in the country with wild boar bear lather coyotes fox raccoons loose dogs and yes the on the run criminal on the loose as I. Three yrs ago in our area hiding I. The woods they claimed to protect my flock of birds my dogs my home n farm equipment And our lives
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                                                          • Judy CooplandiaQueen
                                                            People still have ranches that cows and horses get rustled as do chickens too
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                                                          • Teri 1282723Judy CooplandiaQueen
                                                            Please read beyond my first 2 or 3 sentences in my original answer.
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                                                          • Elizabeth J 447888Judy CooplandiaQueen
                                                            I am pretty sure that farmers in Australia can legally own guns. If you live on a ranch that could be written into the amendment.
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                                                        • Dawn B 1183336
                                                          No. Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people. There's man responsible gun owners and they shouldn't be punished because of teens and adults or criminals get guns. My husband is a responsible gun owner. People fail to realize that the rights we have in the bill of rights and constitution are rights given to us by our creator.
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                                                          • Biscuit
                                                            Rubbish
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                                                          • APB
                                                            Hair dryers don't kill snowmen snowmen kill snowmen
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                                                          • roger b 167654
                                                            Where in the bible (or Koran or Dianetics) does it say that God have given us the right to have guns? The bill of rights and constitution were both done by men (don't think there were any women deciding). Was God in one of the meetings but not credited?
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                                                          • GrommieAPB
                                                            what are you doing out in the snow with an electrically operated hair dryer?
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                                                          • APBGrommie
                                                            It was a cartoon by Bizzaro.com..I love it so much I've got a copy hanging up on the wall in my office!
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                                                        • Robert F 1161011
                                                          Don't worry. The government won't try to take your gun until you use it to commit a crime and get caught.
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                                                          • Dawn B 1183336
                                                            HELL NO! Guns don't kill people, people kill people whose finger is on the trigger. There's good law abiding people who shouldn't be punished because of irresponsible people/parents, teenagers or criminals.
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                                                            • NIkki C 592380
                                                              I think the mass murders in American schools etc would indicate that something should be done over there. Well unless you think thoughts and prayers are enough to counter that....
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                                                              • Carolyn7 P
                                                                Something definitely needs to be done. Building safe classroom shelters, metal detectors, teachers who want to carry should be able to do so and armed law enforcement on duty during school hours. Any of these are better than nothing being done which is what is happening right now, nothing. The attempt to install metal detectors was only met with complaints that it took longer to get in the building.
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                                                              • kathy b 656074
                                                                ‘“something should be done over there”’…you mean forced disarmament? We have twelve times the population of Australia and a sea of privately owned guns; if gun ‘crime’ was really a problem, half the population would’ve been wiped out LONG ago. School shootings exist because anti-gun advocates refuse to install effective security measures and because the mental health of youth in schools isn’t addressed even when the teen shooters are obviously in need of psychiatric intervention and removal from their schools. I will never allow myself to be enslaved by fear or tolerate those who would cower in submission to it.
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                                                              • Biscuitkathy b 656074
                                                                Give it a rest. Gun crime is a real problem in America and y’all doing your best to wipe yourselves out.
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                                                              • roger b 167654Biscuit
                                                                kathy b 656074 does have a point - all primary school kids should carry machine guns as an effective security measure!
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                                                              • kathy b 656074roger b 167654
                                                                I said no such thing nor did I imply that.
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                                                              • Carolyn7 Pkathy b 656074
                                                                nor did I say anything about forced disarmament.
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                                                              • Christine M 323842kathy b 656074
                                                                School should not need bloody security measures implemented.
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                                                              • kathy b 656074
                                                                Pop. of USA in 2024 is recorded as being 345,914,439. Per Washington Post, Sept. 2024, there were 23 mass shootings. ‘Mass shooting’ describes killing four or more people. That’s .00000027% of the total population.
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                                                              • Grommiekathy b 656074
                                                                the stats don't matter if you are the one on the receiving end of a bullet
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                                                            • Judy CooplandiaQueen
                                                              I wanna live long enough to not be currently involved in 9 different wars to date April 25th 2023
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                                                              • MacAddict
                                                                Violence begets violence ! If I were a burglar likely to face an armed homeowner, I would likely arm myself. Then you have two nervous and trigger happy folks face off. Not going to end well for anyone. So unless and your extended family wish to become JUST ANOTHER STATISTIC in the next mass shooting, take a leaf out of Jacinda Ardern’s book. She banned assault rifles etc within a week after the Christchurch massacre. I believe that was the right thing to do. And I think all law abiding citizens agreed.
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                                                                • roger b 167654
                                                                  How do you explain that there are only 52 deaths a year in Britain and over 11,000 in the USA. The way forward is to negate the trigger where everyone thinks they can have guns.
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                                                                • kathy b 656074
                                                                  Land of sheep.
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                                                                • roger b 167654kathy b 656074
                                                                  NZ is the land of sheep, but I’d sooner be a live sheep that a dead sheep
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                                                              • Linda C
                                                                44000 people died from gun violence in your country last year with nearly 700 mass shootings. There were 202 shootings in schools. From 2013 to 2021 USA averaged 87 shootings a year in schools. In 3 weeks in 2023 you have had 39 mass shootings and more than 1200 deaths by shooting. You say the Second Amendment gives you the right to arm yourself but the repercussions of this so called right is horrendous.
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                                                                • Peter K 1143976
                                                                  Your statistics are not accurate or reliable.
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                                                                • Linda CPeter K 1143976
                                                                  From American site so I think they are pretty accurate. If you think they are wrong check them and see for yourself what the figures are. Even if they are 1/2 what I have shown it is too many.
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                                                                • Peter K 1143976Linda C
                                                                  Do more research. And by research, I don't mean take the first Google result that confirms your bias.
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                                                                • Linda CPeter K 1143976
                                                                  I am not bias just horrified. I hear it on news reports both USA and ours constantly about school shootings, gun violence and the numbers I have shown. To think people are so obsessed about the right to carry arms not caring about the consequences. It would be great if everyone who owned a gun was responsible. The ABC for instance reported almost 5000 people had died by gun violence so far this year (Feb 24.2024) and this does not include suicides.
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                                                              • Dawn B 1183336
                                                                No the government shouldn't be allowed to take that right from us. Guns don't kill people unless there's a person behind the trigger. There should be stricter background checks and the ATF should be doing their job in getting guns off the streets and out of the criminals. Responsible people/gun owners shouldn't be punished for those who are criminals or irresponsible.
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                                                                • Linda C
                                                                  What about 6 year old and younger children shooting people or teens in schools going around killing teachers and other students. You have an horrendous record for deaths by guns. Why would you really care about an amendment that allows this to continue.
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                                                                • Linda CLinda C
                                                                  Criminals will always have guns but they usually just use them on fellow criminals. People with mental issues do not have restrictions and just go and get a gun so easily and automatic repeat rifles etc. and then wreak havoc killing innocent people. When I was in USA I was in the centre of the country and all these huge pick up trucks I suppose you call them had guns on racks at the back window. Doors unlocked etc. and not just 1 or 2 cars but a whole bunch of them. Did not feel safe at all.
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                                                                • kathy b 656074Linda C
                                                                  6-y.o. aren’t permitted to own guns and gun owners aren’t responsible for poor parenting that allowed for a 6-y.o. to access the gun.
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                                                                • Linda Ckathy b 656074
                                                                  Of course not but it shows how easily it is for them to get them. Yes poor parenting obviously in this case but also poor controls in general. Too many guns laying around and killing too many people. I would not like to be the one to tell a parent their child was killed by a gun at school because no one wanted to lose their right to have one.
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                                                                • kathy b 656074Linda C
                                                                  For God’s sake, 6-y.o. aren’t permitted to have legal access to firearms.
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                                                                • Linda Ckathy b 656074
                                                                  I never said they did. I said they got a gun that obviously was one of their parents guns left lying around or the child knew how to access it. I said it shows though how easily they can get them. Poor parenting, poor controls, whatever. Your USA history of gun deaths is horrific. A sad state of affairs no matter how you look it but no one seems to want to address the elephant in the room.
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                                                                • kathy b 656074Linda C
                                                                  You’re buying into a false narrative. We have more guns than people and if we were all trigger happy our population decline from homicide would reflect that which it doesn’t. The anti-gunners, anti-self defense are behind this propaganda you consume.
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                                                              • Anna Rogers
                                                                Actually you lot have had that wrong since forever and I’m not even a Yank. The NRA has dined out in that supposed provision when it’s not even correct, and how you could even want arms when they have already taken so many of your brightest and best. “As you live by the sword so you will die by it.”
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                                                                • kathy b 656074
                                                                  England banned firearm ownership and KNIFE crimes replaced the guns. Now, knee-jerkers there are calling for banning ALL knives, including butter knives. By contrast to this stupidness are the criminal element who know how to fashion a shiv from plastic utensils. Nobody is forcing you to defend yourself under any circumstance nor should anybody have the right to deprive you of the right to do so.
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                                                                • roger b 167654kathy b 656074
                                                                  While it is true that firearm ownership was banned after the Dunblane school shooting (shows that had the courage to do something about it), it is erroneous to claim that knife killing replaced it. Sure, knife killings have gone up due to population increases and general increase in violence, but they are still under the proportion of US knife killings.
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                                                              • Lee b 979050
                                                                I know what you’re thinking.? Did he fire 6 shots or only 5 ? Well to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself But being as this a 44 magnum the most powerful handgun in the world and would blow your head clean off you’ve got to ask yourself one question do you feel lucky we’ll do ya punk.. now Do you all think that this would ever have been said without the right to bear arms? Americans talk about gun control every time there is a school shooting. The reality is it will never happen. Who suffers ? The victims families. We had port authur that changed Australia’s innocence to mass shootings to an end forever. But it also bought sweeping changes to our gun laws. Thousands of illegal guns were handed in. This was the best thing that could ever happen. The right to bear arms has a price. Ask the victims families. Is it worth the sacrifices these families made. More guns won’t fix the problem, if you think it will you’re just kidding yourself. Don’t forget to check if you’ve got that fully loaded automatic hand gun in the glove box while your taking your kids to base ball practice.
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                                                                • kathy b 656074
                                                                  No such thing as a ‘“fully automatic handgun”’.
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                                                                • Biscuitkathy b 656074
                                                                  Yes there is.
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                                                                • kathy b 656074Biscuit
                                                                  Name it.
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                                                                • Lee b 979050kathy b 656074
                                                                  the human finger
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                                                                • roger b 167654kathy b 656074
                                                                  Isn’t the glock 18 fully automatic?
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                                                                • Biscuitroger b 167654
                                                                  Yes.
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                                                                • Biscuitkathy b 656074
                                                                  G18 for starters.
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                                                                • kathy b 656074roger b 167654
                                                                  That weapon is NOT accessible for private citizens.
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                                                                • roger b 167654kathy b 656074
                                                                  but that is NOT what you stated - you stated 'No such thing as a "fully automatic handgun" - which I proved was incorrect.
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                                                              • Peter T 100083
                                                                The second Amendment will never be taken away. The process is NOT easy to remove an Amendment.
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                                                                • Bill A 1068834
                                                                  Thank fully Australia is not in the position that USA is in when it comes to crime and gun laws. So definitely not, the last thing we need is to bring our kids closer to guns.
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                                                                  • jeff e
                                                                    no
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                                                                    • Debra D 624780
                                                                      No, just NO!
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                                                                      • Liane H
                                                                        In my 56yrs I can happily say ,never seen a gun.No I don't work in PEST CONTROL nor on a farm so have no requirements for one .If I did need to own one for my work I would be happy to get that psyche assessment that so many aggro people on here clearly need ...just glad ain't living Next door to u and your precious revolvers
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                                                                        • PEN15
                                                                          Yep, if guns were taken, there would be more crimes, because then only the criminals would have them. The solution is easier access to guns. School shootings would be a thing of the past if you could deter the shooter by arming every student and teacher. Tubs of loaded guns freely available at the entrance of malls, nightclubs, cinemas, festivals, hell any public place where people use their second amendment right to kill innocents, would enable every law abiding citizen to stop the criminals with the guns dead in their tracks.
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                                                                          • Robert F 1161011
                                                                            The NRA would love that plan.
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                                                                          • Campbell C 184664
                                                                            Only free guns? Why not RPG's and the like?😁
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                                                                          • roger b 167654
                                                                            Is this meant to be satirical?
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                                                                        • Scarlett 1115496
                                                                          No
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                                                                          • roger l 315504
                                                                            Is it 'normal' to have the ability to murder your neighbour if you are pissed off? Hell, that appears to be the AMERICAN WAY.
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                                                                            • Peter r 971514
                                                                              Hi Vickie. In Australia we to have had milti shootings but these are far between we don't have your passion to protect our selves with leathal force we are able to own guns bust all must be registered and for use only at rifle ranges that we are members off as well our farmers may be armed for use there but just step back look around some people have multiple guns why when one will do this job of protection .I think when everybody has a gun in a holster and on their body this that it is a deterrent doesn't hold up. I am not saying you should ,nthave the right to bear a gun not a armory and hidden is not like being armed at all times
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                                                                              • Margaret C 68385
                                                                                It’s an archaic law that has no place today!
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                                                                                • KARL-HANS B
                                                                                  for what do you need guns
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                                                                                  • Paula J 395266
                                                                                    Thank goodness we don't have that in our constitution and we have very little gun crime. I don't know about anyone else but I have NO need for a gun.
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                                                                                    • Catalina
                                                                                      I hate guns. That’s all I can say.
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                                                                                      • Dimitri T 100433
                                                                                        no it should stand as is
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                                                                                        • Luke W 72035
                                                                                          Yet another Australian here...I see both sides of the argument and it's really none of my business. What I wanted to say though, from an outside perspective, I think poverty might be a driving issue behind so much violence over there and it can stem from uncomfortable circumstances to a certain degree. Much of this seems baked into your culture going back long ago. It's quite fascinating. I don't particularly trust government but things are not so bad in Australia without being able to walk into a store and buy something that is very effective in ending someone's life. There aren't thugs doing home invasions left right and center, although it does happen from time to time and even so that's usually people too caught up in the drug game. But yeah, it's none of my business what you guys do anyway. Can't pretend to know what it's like living there but are acceptable stricter laws possible? Some kind of compromise that will allow you to own guns yet save some lives? I'm probably ranting.
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                                                                                          • kathy b 656074
                                                                                            Criminals do not care about laws and disarming legal owners would only embolden criminals, crime would be a nightmare requiring a military presence in the streets which carries a lot of red tape before they’d be called upon. Only rich bureaucrats receive protection in America.
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                                                                                        • Christine M 323842
                                                                                          Guns are for killing, not defending. Why would you want to hold the responsibility of being able to kill someone at any time that you felt threatened ? Totally unnecessary.
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                                                                                          • Paul C 392065
                                                                                            no
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                                                                                            • Tiffany L 690503
                                                                                              It depends on the individual
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                                                                                              • Shirley H 391879
                                                                                                I don’t agree with that. Here in Australia we do not arm ourselves. Thank goodness!. Since Port Arthur, Mr Howard’s amnesty with guns was very effective.
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                                                                                                • MoB
                                                                                                  Why should you carry guns? In Australia guns are limited to very few. We don't have the mass killing of kids in our schools and we don't have people being killed every day because some hot head shoots a gun. We don't have as many home invasions as you do in the USA. Guns cause more harm to more people. It's time the USA grew up and away from the cowboy and gangster days.
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                                                                                                  • kathy b 656074
                                                                                                    Has nothing to do with gangsters/cowboys.
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                                                                                                  • MoBkathy b 656074
                                                                                                    Then why would anyone carry a gun.
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                                                                                                • Jenny B 109832
                                                                                                  Why not? Other countries around the world like Australia have limited gun ownership to farmer use and other limited people. This stops the useless loss of innocent lives in mass shootings. Yanks take a good look at yourselves - you're the laughing joke of the world when there are continuous shootings in your precious USA.
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                                                                                                  • Kim N 285099
                                                                                                    No?only if you have a farm .
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                                                                                                    • Shawn B 1061185
                                                                                                      Your description is incorrect. The constitution says that weapons must be available for "an organized militia." What you're espousing is the Supreme Courts erroneous interpretation of the constitution. Here in Canada, we know the disproportionate influence American stupidity has on our culture but we have REAL leadership in our country and we know that the fewer guns there are the less often people use them on each other. Do you really need a semi-automatic, extremely high powered, extended magazine assault style rifle to hunt squirrels?
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                                                                                                      • GrumpyBsd
                                                                                                        Kill em all, and let god sort them out.
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                                                                                                        • charles w 935415
                                                                                                          The Government is not allowed to take away any expressed right.
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                                                                                                          • Paul J 94868
                                                                                                            No...
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                                                                                                            • Colin L 88398
                                                                                                              Yat from the available evidence it is the persons gun which is used against them so having any sort of firearm either long or short is far more dangerous to yourself then to others.
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                                                                                                              • Jenny L 591463
                                                                                                                I am also in Australia and I do believe there would be more damage done changing the American way of being able to defend one's self. There would be riots in the streets and it would be hugely unjustified. If people don't think Australia has illegal guns Please think again we do. The guns are in the wrong hands, the guns are on the black market. They are trying to make 3D guns and yes some have blown up in peoples faces. That has not stopped them from trying again and again to get it right. Yes America has a lot of gun violence and well for a nation that doesn't have guns we still have gun violence too. Yeah sure maybe not as often but our population is way less than Americas. It is all about balance and what is right and wrong. People can and do do the right things and there are the ones that will always do the wrong things. We could have a rifle here but it would need to be locked away and the ammunition in a different place. Then if some one knew we had a rifle they could try and steal it and then if they wanted to use it against us, so we decided it was not a good idea. The police have to come and do checks and the less you have them in your life is a good thing and then no one would if you had one.
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                                                                                                                • Edith v
                                                                                                                  .Being an Australian we survive without owning guns .I would be against the American law if it were ever proposed here .
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                                                                                                                  • Carol S 657195
                                                                                                                    Personally, I am afraid of guns. My family were hunters, but I never wanted to trust myself with something that could kill. If someone enters my home, I will be dead before I even realize someone has entered! We do have the right to protection. There are areas of the country where animals can be a threat to human life. As far as killing other people, I would rather be killed than live with killing someone the rest of my life. I do agree that weapons of mass destruction have no place in the hands of civilians! When the amendment was written, weapons of this type weren't even conceived of. Therefore, I do think it should be amended that we are NOT allowed weapons that can kill multitudes of people in a matter of seconds! That is not being used for our protection. It is being used simply to kill for the sake of killing. I strongly believe that as technology changes some of the laws need to change accordingly. The question is how to keep these weapons out of the hands of people illegally. There will probably always be a black market for weapons, drugs, etc. How do these young people get the money for such guns? That is what I'd like to know, and why aren't parents watching their children close! Yes, invade their privacy! They live in YOUR home and must obey YOUR rules. Don't coddle them and make excuses. Also, the schools need some way of finding out what is going on in these kids' minds. Although, they are not always school children doing these horrific shootings. Hate crimes have risen tremendously, and I believe they are luring young people into these cults and using them to do their dirty work after having brainwashed them! Cults are on the rise, and we need to look out for them. They hide behind many things not just religious groups. I wish I had the answers! Stay safe!
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                                                                                                                    • Kaye C
                                                                                                                      Well it is all good to arm yourself but do not go around being an absolute knob jockey just shooting people for the hell of it & if you do not shoot your self after woods you should get the death penalty by having a slow and painful death yourself
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                                                                                                                      • Michelle S 553303
                                                                                                                        I am not American, I am an Australian but I totally defend the 2nd Amendment. We lost our right to bare arms due to the Port Arthur massacre, but most Australians are clueless to the fact that it was a carefully staged and curated False Flag attack in which the media played their part and as a consequence and due to the horror of many innocent people and especially the death of 2 little girls in particular being killed, Alanna and Madeline were their names, the Australian people took their hand guns and shot guns into Police Stations all around Australia during the gun amnesty which followed. Now we are unarmed and our rights as citizens are being eviscerated due to our lack of personal weapons and that we don't have a Bill Of Rights like the US! We are not a Republic either but a Democracy, or at least we were! During the past 6 years, to prepare for the C19 plandemic which had been planned for even before 2016, we have had amendments passed into Law, having been introduced during surreptitious late night meetings of our Senate. The most recent of these is the Assistance and Access Bill which allows the Australian government to snoop on Australian citizens private data, including accessing their bank and financial records. When you upload an app on your phone or during regular updates made to your phone by downloading an app or a sequence, the government, who has long worked closely with Google and Apple, will have encrypted within the app a "back door" where, even if you are using a VPN which I do, this small piece of embedded technology will allow the phone to both monitor and transmit data directly to the cloud where it will be stored, and can be accessed by whoever has the authority to do so! Go look it and the other new pieces of legislation on the Australian government website! Last year, in September 2021, the Identify and Disrupt Bill was passed overnight by just a few elected officials at 2am and with zero fanfare or knowledge of the Australian people, allowed our government to alter our social media posts including comments, replies or to prevent sharing of documents online which would threaten the government's continued monitoring of our social media presence and alter data which we ourselves sent via the internet. Again go look it up! Now we have had 3 recent Amendments to our National Health Act of 2005 in September, October and November of this year that allows for the Health Department of any state to permit an "authorised person" to, along with the Military if required who is actually running the whole show, to enter a premises without a warrant and without notice in order to provide "treatment", which is listed as a C19 mRNA injection or PCR test or any other "treatments" deemed necessary by said officials to a person without their consent and it also provides for the removal of a person's clothing, again without their consent, using the "discretion" of the authorised person, and their removal to a "quarantine facility" for an initial period of up to 28 days and these persons can be held in solitary confinement for all or part of this period! Any animals on the premises can be killed if the authorised person deems it necessary. and if this doesn't remind you of what has been happening in China then you're probably already brain dead! This has been MANDATED into Law without the knowledge and consent of the Australian people! The ONLY thing preventing this occurring in the US is the 2ND AMENDMENT! I wrote these few things down to underscore the fact that the reason that the US and Australia are at different stages on the road to total tyranny and Chinese style governance including the use of a Social Credit Score are the guns in the hands of American patriots! This is WHY there is such a push to keep the media spotlight on the gun violence occurring all across America but especially in blue states with Democratic run cities such as Philadelphia, New York and LA! It is the criminals with unregistered weapons, those bought on the black market and in the hands of increasingly violent gangs that are causing the increasing number of gun deaths and injuries. These people would STILL have access to weapons even if the 2nd Amendment was put aside! Unfortunately there are unhinged citizens with Mental Health issues who should NEVER have a legal OR illegal weapon regardless, who are committing crimes and in part it is the absence of Mental Health treatment which plays a part in this as well as social media. ! The Republican Party style patriots who have a legal right to either open carry or a permit to carry a conceiled weapon are NOT the ones going out and shooting into crowds of people and on many occasions it is the gun in the hands of a legally responsible citizen that stops the shooter BEFORE the Police arrive.If you live in a state like NY with an extremely underfunded and demoralised Police Force with Officer's who know if they pick up an offender who has committed a crime up to an including a crime which is likely to recieve a verdict of 2nd degree murder, that offender will be back out on the streets with parole paid for or on their own reconnaissance before nightfall. Guns don't kill, PEOPLE kill and in a society where the rule of law has been so denuded as to be effectively anarchy in certain areas then the ONLY hope for the rule abiding members of society to be at LEAST as protected by weapons as the ones intent on murder and mayhem! If you think it's bad now then you ain't seen NOTHING yet! Keep your guns because you are going to need them! Thank you for reading.
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                                                                                                                        • Carol S 657195
                                                                                                                          The whole world is going to hell in a hand basket. I truly believe that the end is coming. Politics is so corrupt with greed and power that it has become evil, and people's lives mean nothing to them! It is a scary time so prepare as best you can. I say get a plan into place for have a supply of food, water and other necessities. I believe a horrific time is coming, and we can't hide our heads in the sand and hope the government is going to save us when they are the ones against us! God forgive me for saying that, but it's how I feel!
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                                                                                                                        • Elizabeth J 447888
                                                                                                                          Wow, that puts a whole new spin the the way I was thinking. Thanks Michelle.
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                                                                                                                        • Edith v
                                                                                                                          Michelle S.you wouldn't need a gun .You would bore them to death .Your comment was tooo! long
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                                                                                                                        • GrumpyBsd
                                                                                                                          Michelle could you please let me know the name of your conspiracy group as I would love to join as I too suffer from moments of delusional grandeur and paranoia, but can you do it without the government knowing like telepathically. Or will my tinfoil hat block. get a grip, when you buy a phone you have to give the government all your details and I confused are you blaming the left or the right in Australia?
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                                                                                                                        • Michelle S 553303Edith v
                                                                                                                          When something important must be said Edith whether it takes one word, such as "Freedom" or 1000 such as in my case, THE most important thing is GETTING the message across! I'm sorry that you feel that you were "bored" by my comment but I wonder just how many hours per week you might sit in front of a MSM source and allow them to lie to you and then lie some more? My comment was not for everyone, it was only for those with the discernment to understand the truth. It saddens me that you, unfortunately, will NOT have the opportunity to be forewarned about what is coming, but then not everyone will be saved. I bare you no ill will but I am sorry that you do not understand!
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                                                                                                                        • Elizabeth J 447888Edith v
                                                                                                                          You really should read every word that Michelle writes. It is very relevant and we really need to know all the information that she posts.
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                                                                                                                        • Michelle S 553303Carol S 657195
                                                                                                                          Carol, as sad as this is, you ARE right and, unfortunately, few people will listen when you try to forwarn them of impending disaster and we are heading for a time in history that has NEVER occurred before and will not again. Have you heard of the Tongan eruption which occurred in January 2022? Obviously I'm in the Southern Hemisphere and due to the water vapour and ash that went into our atmosphere and how high it went, we are now experiencing a "year without summer". It is clear from global measuring tools that we are going to experience probably 2 but definitely 1 full year of agriculture in the Southern Hemisphere either being extremely limited with respect to the planting and sowing of vegetables and grains for the countries within the SH and any eventual output! With the intentional famine being created now, and if you are unaware or want me to explain that in depth I'm happy to do so during another post, but countries such as Ukraine are not planting at all and countries from the Netherlands and throughout Europe, farmers are having their livestock taken for slaughter and land by government to "rewild" the agricultural land and "give back to Mother Nature". China has been buying up all the food it possibly can from countries like Brazil for years , but Brazil is now trying to buy soy beans and other crops from other South American nations because their harvest has been almost non existent this past year!. We have a global economic depression just a heartbeat away that CANNOT be stopped because too much money has been created out of thin air and besides, they HAVE to destroy THIS economy in order to "build back better " with a new economic currency based on carbon credits. The Central Bank Digital Currencies or CBDC'S will mean that every single transaction we make will be monitored and a Social Credit Score will determine whether we live and where, just like the poor people of China who are living outside on the sidewalks because their QR code has turned red and they now cannot transact within the economy. We will end up there ourselves and unfortunately the national governments are all part of a NWO, and I UNDERSTAND just how crazy that statement sounds to someone who hasn't done any investigation nor understands just how LONG this has all been planned. It's ignorance on the part of the well entertained masses who have been living through a period of 'bread and circuses" meaning their countries have kept the majority sedated with fast food and X Boxes! You are right about a horrible future, at least until 2030 and I don't believe that humanity will last much longer than that at all, because most people are afflicted now with sicknesses which will be terminal, they just aren't aware now, but they will be! I wrote this on other occasions of an ex soldier who had PTSD from serving at East Timor who told my daughter nearly 9 years ago " if the Australian people knew what their government had in store for them there would be rioting in the streets! I'm prepared as much as I can be, but an astrological event will occur in October of 2024, with the 4 gas giants being in a rectangular position which will cause planet earth to be crushed between the magnetic fields of those planets and the Sun. Extreme earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and earth liquefaction are expected. This is an event not seen for 2000 years. Look up "mud floods" for more. I wish you and your family the best and I intend to have the final "normal" Christmas I will have with my family with food still a plenty this year. Make yours special too! If you have a faith to cling to great. I'm a Christian just FYI and I believe that all these events were prophecised 1000's of years ago and are now coming to pass. Without meaning to offend you God bless your day and I wish you luck!
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                                                                                                                        • Michelle S 553303Elizabeth J 447888
                                                                                                                          Thank you Elizabeth because I really want to help as many people "wake up" and understand that what THEY perceive is happening is NOT actually so. There is SO much hidden from the general public and all I am trying to do is to point people in a direction where they can check for themselves if what I say is true or not! I wish with ALL my heart that it wasn't and that I was wrong. I wish that I didn't feel a burden to share this information but I know that people won't see it otherwise. I appreciate your comment because it's nice to know that someone is interested in what I have to say. Once again thank you for your kind words!
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                                                                                                                        • Helen 1370203
                                                                                                                          Port Arthur massacre you are saying was planned by someone as in an official? Hardly think so .. it was done by a drug addled evil person who was brought up by a weirdo mother who sport him "rotten" and denies he did this. Would have been better fir everyone if he had been shot dead out of existence .. as it is millions have been spent to feed and house someone who is evil, while the innocent ones are left to fend for themselves. Deliberately shooting a child who is trying to run away .. he does no deserve to breathe air. Conspiracy theorists just stir up dissent and civil disobedience, likely taking mindcaltering substances themselves. We don't live in a communist gulag here in Australia. I worked many years with mentally deranged people or they now are free to roam causing havoc in the country, and are brought in by police after acting strangely or violently. This occurs more frequently after psychiatric hospitals were closed down and many are let out to live in normal society with so called " support" all it has created is trouble for police hospital ED and the neighborhood they live in. Many of these people are capable of horrendous crimes, which is voided secondary to " mental health". So llowing freexrein on gun ownership is a poor model of protection when deranged people may buy a gun to do what they like without measures and controls If there is some conspiracy, itwps within govermnents who allow this like US.
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                                                                                                                      • Gaza
                                                                                                                        It works here in Oz.
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                                                                                                                        • Janice S 76330
                                                                                                                          When this law was written, everything was different ! The type of guns available were simple and only capable of firing one bullet at a time, the lives of the people were in danger in a great many situations and in a lot of places there were no law enforcers. If they had known back then, what would happen to innocent civilians, especially the children in a few hundred years, they would have made allowances for changes to be made to the law to ensure the saftey of the American people, which is what the law was originally for.
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                                                                                                                          • Anneliese
                                                                                                                            I think its something they put in place which may have worked for them at the time when colonisation was happening and there were lots of troops and armies fighting over land. Now that America is established it seems a bit dated to still hold onto those laws. Especially with all the mass murders in recent times. It just shows the danger and irresponsibility to allow it to continue. I think they should get rid of guns.
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                                                                                                                            • Pennye R
                                                                                                                              I believe that crimes would increase if guns were taken from law-abiding citizens. The bad guys will always be able to get weapons, whether guns, knives, home made bombs, or rocks! The existing gun laws must be consistently enforced and gun crimes punished severely.
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                                                                                                                              • roger b 167654
                                                                                                                                Why doesn't that happen in Australia where most people wouldn't think of owning a gun - but the murder rate is far, far lower.
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                                                                                                                            • boy blunder
                                                                                                                              I don't get the kill-or-be-killed mentality, crime will always exist, no denying that, maybe I am lucky I have had a gun pointed at me once, working in a drive-through bottle shop, I simply said help yourself mate I stepped from the till and said take it, ill go and get the keys, keys were next to the panic button which I pressed, my co operation relaxed him to a point he started apologizing to me, in the meantime security and police were there in minutes, he was arrested got 10 years and I got a new job but we are both alive ,if i had a gun things might be different
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                                                                                                                              • Bugalugs
                                                                                                                                The next Big Advertising campaign for the USA: Terminally Ill? Thinking of Euthanasia? Why not come to the USA where we will arrange a nice shooting for you! All funeral expenses, including repatriation of your body, will be paid for by American Taxpayers and your family will get millions in compensation! No need to book as these shootings are a daily attraction in the Good Ol' Us of A. Options: Alone or with a few dozen Primary School Children the choice is yours,
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                                                                                                                                • Sabine V
                                                                                                                                  Leave it as is and maybe the physios will kill each other and world will be a better place, plus they are controlling the population
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                                                                                                                                  • Phyrephly
                                                                                                                                    The 2nd Amendment, 'cause it's part of the Constitution, is a thread of safety for Americans right now. If you fiddle with it, in any way - YOU lose. That's the reason it is under attack. The only reason they are attacking it, is to make you submissible, where you can't defend yourself. Freedom of Speech, weapon ownership, the Press..., are front and center in the sights of your enemies. Your Constitution is actually quite enviable. Hold on to it for your life!
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                                                                                                                                    • Bugalugs
                                                                                                                                      I have read some nonsense in my time, but Vickie S's claim is the most arrant nonsense of all. It is typical NRA, ultra-right-wing, red-neck rhetoric. Just look at the 10s of 1000s of Innocent American Children, Women and Men who have been murdered by gun-carrying US citizens and for no good reason. There are many countries around the world where it is illegal to own firearms, to carry, hidden or openly, firearms and those countries have many, many times less crime than the USA. If the people who set up the 2nd Amendment had had any idea that fully automatic, military-style assault weapons would invented and made available to private citizens they would have worded the 2nd very differently. To use the excuse of "with so much going on in the world" as an excuse to have Military Assault Weapons in Private hands is patently absurd. To use the excuse "if our guns were taken, we would have more crime" every bit as absurd because there could be no more crime than there already is. The USA is the Crime Capital of the World. I wonder how Vickie S and her friends would feel if the Police came-a-knocking at their front doors to tell them that all of their Children had been murdered by their husband, brother, sister, relative, friend or an adult member of a family they know when he/she went to the School and opened fire?
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                                                                                                                                      • john g 997029
                                                                                                                                        Thank you for being a voice of reason!
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                                                                                                                                    • Larry S 382961
                                                                                                                                      Not in Australia we don’t have it. Plenty of guns in wrong hands. Where I live it’s like the Wild West with drive by shooting but maybe they have killed each other off so not so bad now
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                                                                                                                                      • nina m 212027
                                                                                                                                        i,m australian there is no second amendment we as far as i no there are shotings in the city but we are in the country if people arm there selves were would we be my neibours have guns would not trust anyone we went to america a few years ago we got lost asking people on the street for help they just walked by scard of there own shadow
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                                                                                                                                        • Sonya F 68771
                                                                                                                                          no never
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                                                                                                                                          • Kevin L 1010680
                                                                                                                                            Outlaw guns for everyone, including hunters and pochers enough killing in this world we are such a violent race, We as humans live our lives as barbarians with 1% use of our brain compacity.6 major wars in the last 100 years.
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                                                                                                                                            • Mariaj
                                                                                                                                              I totally agree with you Kevin
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                                                                                                                                          • Lezley T
                                                                                                                                            The 2nd amendment is an important part of not only American political policy and rights but also of American culture and society. Famous civil rights leader Frederick Douglass perhaps best sums it up in his response to post-Civil War segregation laws, “A man’s rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.”
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                                                                                                                                            • Tom M 1059141
                                                                                                                                              never
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                                                                                                                                              • Sandra C 12043
                                                                                                                                                Not my business, I'm not American so have no influence on the outcome.
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                                                                                                                                                • Kevin L 1010680
                                                                                                                                                  Im not American either but the violence has to stop.
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                                                                                                                                                • Sandra C 12043Kevin L 1010680
                                                                                                                                                  The violence does need to be stopped but neither you or I are going to influence that decision. The only people who can make that decision are the American people and what you and I think won't make one iota of difference.
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                                                                                                                                              • Christina C 466456
                                                                                                                                                We all know that suicides, homicides, school shootings, gun violence in general are increasing. Don't need to point out which countries are more affected by this versus relaxed gun laws. But if it reached the point where you have to decide between your personal right versus our children's safety, is that really a choice?
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                                                                                                                                                • Mary M 329762
                                                                                                                                                  You should have Australia guns laws. If you have a gun needed to be checked each month by the police, be lock up/etc. Its may or may not help but its a start. I think all gun needed to go to shop to understand the real fax of life with gun. In the end up the person to keep the guns lock up and education theyself. They always two side of the storys be open mind in the end.
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